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Posted on 01-23-05 3:42 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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A pro Maoist party, Khmer Rouge, in Cambodia killed more than one to three million (or between a quarter of the country?s population). Determined to create ?year Zero?, they crush social institutions such as banking and religion and emptied cities of their inhabitants. Thanks to the international law tribunal, this party is facing charge of genocide. Though Pol pot (Khmer Rouge party leader) is no longer alive, he is still remembered as a mass murderer of 20th century.

A pro Maoist party, Nepal communist party of Nepal (Maoist), in Nepal came into existence in 1995. Determined to out through constitutional monarchy and to create one party Maoist system, this party is responsible of killings more than 12,000 Nepalese people. Even though their dreams may not come true but this ongoing conflict is surely going to kill more people in Nepal. But the question arise what if Maoist really comes into the power? Will that be another Xerox copy of Khmer Rouge in Nepal? What would be the condition to those parties who oppose Maoist ideology? How would our neighbors and America react? Will our country be another Afghanistan or Iraq if Maoist comes into power?

I think these are the questions that must be discusses. Though it is just a hypothetical assumption of Maoist coming into power but the bitter truth is; in politics any thing is possible.
expecting your opinions...................

 
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Posted on 01-24-05 3:01 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Netaa ji, I guess you mean Gun related Homicidal deaths. But i dont think your logic is sound enough to reach the conclusion that nepal is relatively safe. You have not taken the population ratios into consideration. And what "relatively safe" means, seems open to interpretation.

And lets not talk about what if situations - US in a civil war?, Nuclear warfare?, homosexual robots?

You might prefer walking through kathmandu than compton in the middle of the night, but thats comparing one of the safest place in nepal, with one of the most notorious in US. And as far as I know, there are no immediate combat organizations operating in the US, i.e., besides the US Military...
 
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Posted on 01-24-05 4:11 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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?The phrase "armed conflict? usually implies as a fight by organized combatant groups, ............. armies or combat organizations.?
?Where as ''gun related crimies and incidents" DOES NOT implies as an organized fight in the first place ...................... against a very small group of individuals.?
Neeta ji,
Thanks for your definitions on ?armed conflict? and ?gun related crimes?. I have no reason to argue with those definition, but we are neither concerned with USA crime nor we are concerned with Cambodian war conflicts. We, Nepali, are concerned with our own domestic problems and it has nothing to do with crime rate of USA; so called Gun related Homicidal deaths.
I totally agree with Tongue tied; ?And lets not talk about what if situations - US in a civil war?, Nuclear warfare?, homosexual robots?? rather talk about Nepal- Civil war, Maoist take over and potential genocide.
Yes, genocide indeed is an unimaginable but as I have mentioned earlier politics is unpredictable. At list, I won?t be surprise to see prachandra acting as a prime minister under the direct rule of king Gynendra.


 
Posted on 01-24-05 4:16 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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confused bro, dont get confused... khmer Rougue and Maoists are same not only in the way they have waged their wars, but also theoretically, its sad but they think they can bring their one party communist system by mass murder... that is what mao teaches...
 
Posted on 01-24-05 4:20 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Ganandra ko direct rule, Prachanda Prime Minister and........................ dissolve the Maoist Army into Nepal Army......
..........Ani Nepal Army bhitraa "bhaad bhailoo" maachau nee. he he he he he ha ha ha ...Ganedra heryaa heryaaee....Girija Twalwaaa..walwaa
 
Posted on 01-24-05 7:31 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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sounds interesting! Prachandra shaking hands with Gynandra. Girija and Madhav going jail. if this happends then nepal might see peace again.
 
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Posted on 01-24-05 9:55 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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u bet! really it is!
 
Posted on 01-24-05 9:58 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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well.... the topic says it all.... it's all there... Mr. President.
 
Posted on 01-25-05 7:23 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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King G, Prachanda, Maoists in RNA and India, these 4 factors are
the solution to current crisis.

India was heaven for Maoists to travel one part of nepal to another
and to pass or bring arms. India allowed it knowingly or unknowingly
or deliberately or unwantedly.... India is watching for chance to utilize
Maoists for its best interest. BRB who wrote agressive writing in TKP
after King Bire.'s death showed BRB was more against India, but the
silence (complete silence) against India after that writing clearly shows
that India and Maoists are waiting for some chance to use each other.

Well, King G also want similar chance to use Maoists and India to solve
the problem and to get credit for solving the crisis and assure that
Paras can be King in future and some Sajhaities will be going to beg
Mahendra bidhya bhusan from the Hand of "King Paras", not very
far away, though its dilemma, but they will do it.

What can bring King G and india closer? Many might no know or don't
have capacity to imagine such miracle. Lets look at world scenario.
Why Bush did not attack North Korea but why iraq? Sole reason
is: OIL (Operation Iraq Liberation). India's primary interest will be
on Nepal's resource, the only natural resource nepal has is Water
Resource. karnali and Mahakali are two rivers they are in better
control of Nepal, at this moment. So, India will not drive Maoists
out of India as long as Nepal Govt. does not offer Karnali in exchange
of Maoists. Like Indira Gandhi kicked BP and other Nepali Congressies
in 1977, BP came to Nepal with a slogan of Raja sanga haat milau
(mel-milap gara)....... and they could no longer stay in India and
run programs against King. Similarly, If Maoists are going to be
extremely threat to India, India would have fired them already, but
Maoists stopped shopping arms from Kashmiri terrorists long time ago
and therefore, Maoists don't have enough ammunition to attack
army camps in Nepal and frequency has reduced a lot and now they
are running more hit and run, never had power to say "Aija yaha
yo time and yo dina ladou", and with such tactics they should not
dream of winning Kathmandu, even Tamil tiger could not capture
Colombo, with such experience and huge resources, how could
Maoists who have no declared area of their own. So, Maoists are
not threat to India. If Maoists are not threat to India, India will
let them remain in India and keep on working against Nepal govt.,
so that India can bargain and get something in return. When extreme
comes King G or Nepal Govt. will offer Karnali and Maoists will
be given ultimate to leave India ASAP with Mel-Milap stuffs and
things might get settled by offer PM post to Prachanda and
Maoists in RNA, and the safe landing equation used by BP will
be used by Prachanda and his goon. Like Koshi and Gandaki selling
were blamed to BP being PM at that time, Karnali will be blamed to
Deoba or other PM at that time.

I wish this scenario does not happen and the Karnali remains in our
control. Oops, I got my UG scholarship to develop Karnali Project and get
electricity, I don't think that I will asked to be a part of this project.

GP
 
presidentofnepal2035
Posted on 01-25-05 10:33 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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GP's point of view on Indian interest towards Nepal and its water resources is interesting. But I have some disagreements with GP, particularly in;"Maoists are
not threat to India. If Maoists are not threat to India, India will let them remain in India and keep on working against Nepal govt., so that India can bargain and get something in return."

I don't believe that Maoist doesn't posse threat to India. We know India has its own Maoist problem. Andhra Pradesh, Assam, West Bengal and Bihar states are the most Maoist affected areas. Though Indian Maoist are not stronger as compared to Nepalese Maoist but Maoist rule in Nepal will surely create a favorable situation to Indian Maoist.

I have been to the website of RIM. It says that the ultimate goal of South Asians Maoist is to create LAL KILLA from AP to Nepal. I do believe that Indians are always interested in Nepalese resources, water resource in particular. But using Nepali Maoist as a weapon to bargain with Nepal is surely a suicidal act to India. I bet Delhi administration knows it.

 
Posted on 01-25-05 1:22 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Everything is possible. That possibility can not be ruled out to create an
environment to make Paras: the King of Nepal. Did you see the Nepali
AMALE peoples how they went to India to sign the Mahakali treaty. Nepali
politicians don't have ethics or moral and they will sell nepal to India parts
by parts, like you tear down your pay check to pay telephone bills, electrcity
bills, rents, water bills ...... and at the end of the month you find nothing
in your hand. How come your large sheet of pay check vanished ? You
know calculas: differential calculas: dy/dx, that dx is terrible things we
learned to make big things to vanish part by part. India knows dy/dx
and dy/dx will remain small (limit deltaX tends to zero)......

Have fun. Don't trust your leaders, no where.
GP
 
presidentofnepal2035
Posted on 01-25-05 1:56 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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hehehehe... GP bro it was fun reading your comment again.
you used your gx/gy logic "to make big things vanish part by part" but the same Differential Equations can be used other way;
dy/dx = 2x ? dy/dx = 3y2 or
dy/dx = 3(x/y) ? dy/dx = 0.5x+y.
Assuming Nepal as Dy.
unfortunately, matrix calculus doesn't apply in politics.
 
presidentofnepal2035
Posted on 01-25-05 2:00 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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dx/dy * hunu parne ho.
 
Posted on 01-25-05 5:24 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Maoist Party has a huge baggage of social and political agendas therefore has a collaboration of various sections of society. Even if the Maoist Party were to be disbanded various interst groups , represting the interests of various sections of society, will continue the armed struggle even if the armed struggle might not continue in well cordinated done by the Maoist as a single unit.


 
Posted on 01-25-05 8:52 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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lau, sabai le sajha ma jodi pauna atte..

president of nepal and G_P, ko kura mileko dekhera kasto majja lagi ra cha malai :)


 
Posted on 01-26-05 4:12 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hey, Confused, don't think that I am a gay. Let me leave
alone, today you write "joda", tomorrow someone else
will add another "dx" stuff w.r.t. gay and finally, when
you hear things a week later, you will find confused yourself
whether GP is a gay.

GP
 
Posted on 01-26-05 4:24 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Netaa_ji,

Maoists are not leading towards solution to these social problems
but they hijacked these problems for their own political benefits.
The difference lies there. Maoists will give up those slogans once
they get access to power.

Thats it. Period.
GP
 
Posted on 01-26-05 4:31 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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PON2035,

I should have written, dx/dt where t is time. dx is Nepal's resources.
dx/dt is -vely sloped.

GP
 
Posted on 01-26-05 4:33 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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once more,

x is Nepal + Nepal's resources and dx is infinitedecimal change in x.

GP
 
Posted on 01-26-05 10:34 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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GP

well, even if the Maoist get into power what if the Maoist fracture itself into different interest groups within the Maoist. """"Even the Tamil Tigers could not evade fracture within itself."""" There are so many examples of fractures that has happened within a rebel group around the world because of competing interest groups within the main rebel front.

What happens if Magar form their own rebel front independent of Maoist (after all they are the major fighting force behind Maoist army in the west)or Madeshi form their own rebel front(in fact they already have if you've watched the news closely), Kirats form their own rebel (Kirats had their own small but independent rebel front before they merged with Maoist) front and subsequent all ethnic groups form their own independent rebel fronts. What if all struggle for power. Things will definately get messier than what it already is.

Is moncarch and his army going to deal with every independent rebel groups. Will it be possible to put every rebel front into power and satisfy every single rebel groups. I dont believe putting Maoist to power will cease civil war.
 
Posted on 01-26-05 10:39 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Gp ji,

alik sabaile bujhne bhasa ma kura garau na.. tyo maths ko equation use nagari kana..afu maths ma aalu, thopai kehi bujhina yaha le bhanna khojeko kura..


 



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