I Love past King Gyandra Very Much Because He is 1000 times better then Prachada, Nepali people were expecting to much things about Nepal but Dahal is not nothing I think he is earning much more.

keep on updating the things as you read on my friend

OMFG! there goes the friggin history lectures again! Can't you guys opine without having to brag about your intelluctualism? Makes me feel 'inferior' ;)

That being said, I think a democracy would be better for us because we havent tasted its benefits yet. Nopes, we've only seen what it can do for other countries and expected the same to happen to us once we declare ourselves to be one. But we haven't done any hardwork.

It doesn't happen over night. The journey of a thousand miles start with a single step. And you will know when you're going in the right direction.

Ahile ta totally wrong direction ma gai rachu hami :(.

racist of the year award goes to........................SAJHAKOHERO!!!!

I support maikhane..

Its true that Gyanendra was not able to do much but now how much it was developed, its also being destroyed.

 

Fuc(k) Prachande, Fuc(k) all politicians.

Bhuktaman was the first king of Nepal and was from first Gopal Dynasty yalambar was the king from kirants dynasty wich came after the fall of mahispal dynasty ......to know about the first shah king watch the movie called simarekha

Bhuktaman was the first king of Nepal and was from first Gopal Dynasty yalambar was the king from kirants dynasty wich came after the fall of mahispal dynasty ......to know about the first shah king watch the movie called simarekha

My dear brothers, sisters and friends. Call me whatever you wish. Maybe i might have preach racial theme BUT you guys actually practise it.

“I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant.”
While
“An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out.”

IGNORANT was the FACTS of Life with all our previous Nepal government. Maybe it was due to
their ignorant or with self-centered intention, which they were busy writing their history page by page while
the old pages was ignored and trashed away so the the Nepalese would not have to witness the full
history of Nepal, i.e the history of Nepal would thus be lost along with their roots and culture.

Anyway coming back from my readings i have become more "Learned" than yesterday or all my past years regarding
the roots and history of Nepal.
This is what i find after reading these hard to find articles.
Before Aryan came into Indus valley, there are some records that Kiratis were already living in many regions as of India as Tribals, but their main stronghold was the mountains regions including foothills now
Nepal/Assam and its surrounding regions which was the center for Kirat civilization (which i will further illustrate later after i done more readings and research.)

This is supported by the script written below:


    From the Yajurveda onwards, the mountain regions of North and North-eastern India --- the Himalayas particulraly, are well attested as
the abode of the Kiratas. In the Mahabharata, the Kiratas are dwellers in the Himalayas regions, particularly in the Eastern Himalayas. Bhima
in his conquering tour meets the Kiratas in the east after leaving the Videeha country:

            Cf. Sabhaparvan, 26 32:----

        Vaidehasthas tu Kaunteya Indra-parvatam antikat:
        Kiratadhipatin sapta vyajayat tatra Pandavah

which upon translation is:

(Then the Pandava hero, O son of Kunti, coming to the Vaideha land close to Indra Mountains, defeated the seven Kirata rulers'.)

    In addition, they are found also in the North-west when Nakula marches in that direction. The following verses from the
Sabhaparvan of the Mahabharata (Sabha, 52, 8-10: quoted by Kaliprasanna Sen, Vidyabhushana, in his edition of the Raja-mala,
Tripura Chronicle, Vol. I, p. 169) are clear about the home of the Kiratas, and make mention of some of their ways:---

        ye parardhe ca Himavatah suryodaya-girau nrpah,
        Karuse ca samudrante Lauhityam abhitasca ye
        phala-mulasana ye ca Kiratas carman-vasasah
        krura-sastrah krura-krtas tamsca pasyamy aham prabho
        candanaguru-kasthanam bharan kaliyakasys ca,
        carma-ratna-suvarnanam gandhanan caiva rasayah

"Those  kings who are on the other half of the Himalayas and in the mountains of the east (Sun-rise mountain) in Karusa by the end (edge) of the sea, and
beside the Lauhitya (Luhit or Upper Brahmaputra river), those who are moreover Kiratas living on fruits and roots, clad in skins,
fierce with their weapons, cruel in their deeds, them I saw, O Lord: and loads of sandal and agallochum wood, and of black pepper, and masses
of skins and gems and gold and of aromatic shrubs."
(For Karuse ca samudrante there is variant reading varisena samudrante: Dr. Moti Chandra in his Geographical and Economic Studies in the
Mahabharata:  Upayana Parva, U.P. Historical Society, Lucknow, 1945, pp. 84-85, seeks to identify this Varisa with Barisal District in East Bengal,
which is by the sea: an identification which is quite likely to be correct.)


Kirat religion is not Hindusm. It is Kirati Mundhum. This practice is also known as Kirat Veda, Kirat-Ko Veda or Kirat Koved.
According to some scholars, such as Tom Woodhatch, it is a blend of animism (e.g., ancestor worship (Sumnima/Paruhang), Saivite Hinduism and Buddhism which can be categorize as Shamanism.
Mundhum or Kiranti Veda (also known as Peylan) is the religious scripture and folk literature of the Kirat people of Nepal, central to Kirat Mundhum.
Mundhum means "the power of great strength" in the Kirati languages. The Mundhum covers many aspects of the Kirat culture, customs and traditions that existed before Vedic civilisation in South Asia.
The Mundhum commands that the priests say that the Kirat family members used to be called "Devas".
The Mundhum for each tribe consists of customs, habits, rituals, traditions, and myths passed down from the Kirati tribe's ancestors.
The Mundhum also distinguishes each Kiranti tribe from other Kiranti and non-Kirantis as well.

Kirats shamanism and their rituals are mostly related to the worship of mother nature and ancestors. Almost all sacred rituals are performed by nakchong, the kirat priest.
Their supreme deity Tagera Nyingmaphuma is personified as Lord Shiva.
Many followers wear a tilak on the forehead, as in Hinduism, when they recite their sacred text, the Kiranti Veda.

For additional support, you can link to this site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirant_Mundhum

Regarding Tagera Nyingmaphuma, i will give more support in later......!!

SKH

The scrips in Mahabaharata depicts this as i extract some paragraphs from the book and quote it down:

"We should recall that as early as the Mahabharata we find the legend of Siva Mahadeva, the Great God, taking the guise of a Kirata,
with Uma with him as a Kirata woman, to test Arjuna when he was practising religious penance in the Himalayas: a legend which may have
its germs in the following vers of the Sata-rudriya section of the White Yajurveda (XVI, 7):

                       Asau yo vasarpati nila-grivo vilohitah
                       utainam gopa adrsrann vdaharyah: sa drsto mrdayati nah

May he who glides away, whose neck is azure, and whose hue is red, he whom the herdsmen, whom the girls who carry water have
beheld, may he when seen be kind to us." (Trans. by Ralph T. Griffith, Benares, 1899.)

And this is quite a high exaltation of the status of the non-Aryan hill people, the Kiratas, when the Supreme God with his consort was
made to take up the guise of a Kirata mountaineer and his wife.

The book, KIRAT-JANA-KRTI also mentioned that in the famous episode of Siva meeting Arjuna as Kirata, accompanied by Uma also in the
guise of a Sabari or a Kirati woman, in the Himalaya regions, when Arjuna went there to propitiate Siva by his austerities with a view to
obtain the boon of the Pasupata weapons from the Great God himself, as narrated in the Kirata-parvan section of the Vana-parvan of
the Mahabharata.
A definite indication of what the Kirata people were like is given also. They were 'gold-like', i.e., yellow in colour (and not dark or black
like the Dasas and Dasyus and the Nisadas and other pre-Aryan peoples of the plains.) Cf. the following passages:---

                  Kairatam vesam asthaya kancana-druma-sannibham
             "Taking up a Kirata resemblance, like unto a tree of gold" (IV, 35, 2);

                  dadarsatha tato jisnuh purusam kancana-prabham
              "Then the Victorious One (Arjuma) saw a Man, shining like gold" (IV, 35, 17);

                 na tvam asmin vane ghore bibhesi kanaka-prabha
              "O thou that art shining like gold (addressing Siva in the form of Kirata), dost thou not fear in this terrible forest" (IV, 35, 18).

It is therefore many scholars also have concluded that Siva was the God of Kirata and later it was Aryan who took Siva as their own God
and Hindunized/Aryanized it so basically Siva is seen more as Hindu God than tribal God.

As one scholar said "To begin with, the kipat system and the mundhum are traditionally uncontested metaphors of Kirata culture. Similarly the worshiping of
 Tagera Nyingmaphuma or the supreme deity was a pan-Kirata symbol. But with the obilition of kipat system and the simultaneous influence
of Hinduism, these symbols have lost their strength considerably. Since Tagera Nyingmaphuma, is often personified as Shiva, who is not
only considered tribal God but also one of the Hindu pantheon, he  cannot be claimed by the Kiratas as their exclusive God" ---Politics of Culture: A Study of Three Kirata Communities in the Eastern Himalayas), 1999 by Tanka Bahadur Subba

In addition,
while doing my research i found another word for Kirat and i have copy and paste the paragrah below:

 "The Kirat (Sanskrit: किरात) mentioned in early Hindu texts are the tribals or Adivasi of the land. They are mentioned along with Cinas (Chinese).
Kiratas are believed to be of Tibeto-Burman origin. Ghatotkacha of Mahabharata fame (Son of Bhima) was a Kirata Chieftain.

In Yoga Vasistha 1.15.5 Rama speaks of kirAteneva vAgurA, “a trap [laid] by Kiratas”, so about BCE Xth Century, they were thought of as jungle trappers, the ones who dug pits to capture roving deer. The same text also speaks of King Suraghu, the head of the Kiratas who is a friend of the Persian King, Parigha.

The most famous Kiratas in Hinduism are the Kiratra avatar of Shiva, Lord Buddha and sage Valmiki, writer of the Ramayana."

You can find this page <http://krismanto.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/mahabharata-sansekerta/>




    In the Mahabharata, the Kiratas are mostly associated with foreign peoples, like the Yavanas, the Sakas, and the Pallavas, who belong
to the west; but especially with the Cinas or the Chinese.
Bhagadatta, the King of Pragyotisadhipah or Western Assam who took part in the Kurukshetra battle; was definitely described as a ruler over Mlecchas or Non-Hindu barbarians, which time again and again Kiratas was label as barbarians by the Aryans in their texts.

Quote from the book reads    "Pragjyotisadhipah suro mlecchanan adhipo bali"
                                                           upon translation is
                                ( "the powerful hero, the lord of Pragjyotisa, the lord of Mlecchas")

And in the Sapha-parvan (26, 9, quoted) in the Raja-mala, I, p. 84) we find---
        
                                 sa Kirataisca Cinaisca vrtah Pragjyotiso bhavat,
                                 anyaisca bahubhir yodhaih sagaranupa-vasibhih
                                                       upon translation is
"The Pragjyotisa (King) was there, surrounded by Kiratas and Cinas (Chinese) and with many other warriors dwelling by the coast of the sea.

Elsewhere (In Stri-parvan, 23), Bhagadatta is described as having his seat among hills (esa sailalayo raja Bhagadattah pratapavan "here is the mighty King Bhagadattah whose home is in the hills").

Mahabharata, V.584, ASB. edition, II, 1836) quote:
            
            Bhagadatto mahipalah senam aksauhinim dadau: tasya Cinaih Kirataisca
                                    kancanair iva samvrtam, babhau balam anadhrsyam karnikara-vanam yatha.
                                                             upon translation is
"The Cinas and Kiratas soldiers appeared to be in gold: their troops had the appearance of a forest of Karnikaras(with yellow flowers)"



The Ramyana also mentiones the golden colour of the Kiratas: thus,

                                     Kiratasca tiksna-cudasca hemabhah priya-darsanah,
                                     antar-jala-cara ghora nara-vyaghra iti srutah
 (Kiskindhya-Kanda, 40, 27,28, quoted by N.N. Vasu in Social History of Kamarupa, Calcutta, 1922, p.92)

                                                  upon translation is
"The Kiratas, with hair done in pointed top-knots, pleasant to look upon, shining like gold, able to move
under water, terrible, veritable tigermen, so are they famed".          

Elsewhere The Ramyana speaks of other Kiratas who lived by the sea and were ferocious, and ate raw fish though i have not found the ancient scripts on this (yet)!



From the Sabha-parvan of the Mahabharata (30, 26-28):

            vasu tebhya upadaya Lauhityam agamad bali:
            sa sarvan mleccha-nrpatin sagaranupa-vasinah
            karam aharayamasa ratnani vividhani ca
            candanaguru-vastrani mani-mauktika-kambalam,
            kancanam rajatan caiva vidrumam ca mahabalam

                                upon translation is
"The powerful warrior receiving wealth from them went to the Lauhitya river.
He (was victorious over) all the Mleccha Kings dwelling by the shore of the sea,
and obtained tributes from them--gems of various sort, sandalwood, agallochum, cloths, gems (rubies), pearls
and blankets, gold, silver and very hard lapis-lazuli."

This gives insight of the Kiratas dwelling in the hills and mountains of the east were supposed to be rich in gold and silver and gems they
obtained from these mountains, and they were experts in making cloth of various kinds as described in the above
passage.

"The above passages, and some others quoted by Sylvain Levi (in his work on Nepal) will give idea about the Kiratas, the place where
they lived, their appearance and their ways of living, round about the time of Christ, when the Mahabharata was in the midst of its
expansion as an encyclopaedia work.
The ways of the Kiratas were simple. They lived mostly on fruits and tubers, dressed themselves in skins, wore their hair in a pointed
top-knot, and were a pleasant-looking people, but terrible with their weapons, and cruel in war.
Their yellow complexion evidently marked them off from other Indian peoples". ----Suniti Kumar Chatterji (KIRATA-JANA-KRTI)

See you again soon!
SKH

but kirats were badly defeated ,,,,....and had to give up their power and everything ....otherwise they would have been ruling nepal right now ,,,.....

you are right Raju161 but we don't have lot of knowledge about these defeat, how were they defeated,
and what happens to them and their descendants.
We also need to know the Kiratas contribution in every aspects of life in Ancient India and Nepal thoroughly
and their influences and religious practices in the early period
Raju not much of Kiratas has been mentioned, published or studied in Nepal. Or it can be simply correct to say
it has been neglected.
As you know without tracing back the Nepal roots and origins, we will lose a great deal of  history and culture
of Nepal and its people.
Foreign influence results and your identity will be eradicated once and for all.

Now that is sad. Very sad i have to say.

That's why i am doing research on Kiratas, their contributions to the history and culture of India and Nepal.

There are many scholars who are also doing this research and some of it have been published recently are;

Politics of Culture: A Study of Three Kirata Communities in the Eastern Himalayas
By Tanka Bahadur Subba (1999)


History and Culture of the Kirat People: Part I-II
By Cemjonga, Imana Simha
Published by Kirat Yakthung Chumlung, 2003
Original from the University of Michigan


Bharavi's Poem Kiratarjuniya or Arjuna's Combat with the Kirat by  Bharavi, Carl Cappeller (Translator)
 Publisher: Kessinger Publishing Company, 2007
 
KIRATA-JANA-KRTI by Suniti Kumar Chatterji, 2007

I will update more once i have done readings and research.

SKH

While still......doing my research  on KIRATAS, i came across this.
What do you readers think about it?
Please let me know cause it is a valuable resource and also let me use as feedback too.

"Legendary kirant tribe in ancient India"

       
Kirant legendary aboriginal inhabitants of The Himalayas. Early
references to the GOLDEN SKINNED kirant in Sanskrit literature portray
them as fearsome skin-clad cannibalistic hunter, skilled in magical
arts. In later Hindu Epics they are described as having their own kings
who allied themselves with Hindu rulers but despised Brahmans. In a
well known Episode from the Mahavarata the god Shiva assumes the guise
of kirata to do battle with the hero arjuna. The kirant have been
associated with the kiranti of Nepal like SUNUWAR, RAI, LIMBU AND
YAKKHA so far, and other tribal groups such as Lepchas,Nagas, etc in India.
KASTEN RONNOW in his long article “kirata” A study on some
ancient Indian tribes published in 1936 has provided a detailed
accounts of the kiratas. The subject is further highlighted in
Encyclopedia prepared by R.N SALETORE, ROBERT has touched on the
subject without giving any details. SUDHAKAR CHATTOPADHYAH had tried to
do justice with the subject concerned through his Important work. R.P.
CHANDRA a celebrated Indian anthropologist and a highly accomplished
scholar of ideology has also made a historical study of a few ancient
Indian tribes by taking a numismatic approach to the problem concerned.


         All of them mentioned about kirant which Is the most ancient tribe in
Indian continent. The more important inscriptions about the ethnic
communities of the region are the PANDUKESHVAR copper plate inscription
or the CHARTERS AND GRANTS OF LALITASURA middle of the 9th centaury A.D
and the grants of PADMA middle of the 10th centaury A.D. Both of kumaon
garwal region. These have been addressed to the kiratas, The khasas,
the Dravidas and others. One of the PANDUKESHVAR inscriptions provided
a glimpse of the kingdom of RAJYA KIRATAS {kumaon and karttikeyapur}.
Sikh guru Nanak himself was born in KIRANTPUR ancient kirant
kingdom in panjab. Classical GREEK AND ROMAN writer were also mentioned
about kirata. The first Greek historian and geographer to speak clearly
of the races of north western India was HECATEUS of miletus {B.C 549 -
486}. In his geographical work the period gees he mentions KALATIAI OR
KALLATIAI along with other tribal people who were living on the
frontier Hills. The KALATIAI can etymologically be identified with
kiratas living on the Upper Indus. People says Indus civilization is
Aryan civilization but in historic, anthropologist and archaeologist
way this civilization was completely belongs to kirata because this
civilization was before 5000 B.C but Aryan start to migrate in Indian
continent only after 1500 B.C from Iran. What they only found in Indus
valley where the civilization was various forms of Statue of GOD SHIVA
kiranti god.


       In addition, some very import CHINESE TEXT are also worthy of mention. The most
ancient text PO-OU-YEO-JING. Translated in 308 AD. Refers to an
appellation VI-TI-SAI, which from the Chinese point of view is an exact
equivalent to the kiratas who were the very popular and doughty warrior
in the Chinese text. They were mentioned as quite similar with Chinese
race. Golden yellowy colour. From Chinese and Japanese point of view
ancient Hindu religion itself was the religion of kiratas because many
god and goddess were used to worship by local tribes before Aryan start
to migrate in Indian continent. Hindu religion only seems borrowed by
Aryans and later claimed their religion adding some other system and
god, goddess. Like ancient Hindu god and goddess {AGNI, BAYU, BIRYE,
BARUN} were already existed before Aryan comes. All the Chinese, French, Arabian, Japanese, venetian travellers
some how they managed to mentioned about kiratas. FA-HIAN{399-414 AD}
Who visited India during Gupta period has made a passing reference of a
kirat. HIUEN-TSANG{629-645 AD} Who visited India during the time of
HARSA, has left behind an elaborate account of India. He was also
mentioned about kiratas saying beautiful people.
 
       In India these kirata people were
unfortunately treated as foreigners but in our study shows that they
have been aboriginals of India and we do not find any reflection of
their foreign origin ancient Indian Literary texts. They were also
known as DASYUS ,they were of KSHATRIYA origin but due to laxity in
moral conduct they were degraded and thus termed as DASAS OR DASYUS by
Aryans.
One of the powerful dasyu king was SHAMBARA. Whom the RIGVEDA
mentions as the greatest enemy of the Aryans. After Fighting for about
forty years. The Aryans defeated shambara. The rajya kirata were
actually ancient kirata tribes of kumaon region who were the descendant
of shambara. These kiratas were always resisting against the invader
and looter Aryans. So as being noble enemy of Aryan they were
appreciated and hated in mixture way of Aryan text book.


written by:

By Chandra Prakash Sunuwar

Dhobighat, Lalitpur, Kathmandu

Email: cpsunuwar@hotmail.com



Reference sources of article:-

-The abode of amative

-Garwal the land and people

-study on kumaon Himalaya

-man and forest

-myths, rituals and believes in himanchal prades

-recent research on the Himalayas

Drabya Shah was the first king of shah dynasty he defeated his step brother and took control of the dynasty

 

for more clarification hear the song by late jhalakman gandarvha....titled ...."bhandiye".....

I did not, but I was in favor of giving a choice to people, what they think? Should we keep the Monarcy or let it go by voting?  

Nepali congress had made a big mistake on this part, will pay a hafty toll for a long period.

nice reasearch there SKH regarding ancient kiratis. u hav mentioned about tagera nimwafungma, supreme god of kiratis, it is absolutely true, even today in every joyous celebration like marriages of limbu n other kirati communities we start with 'ot tagera ningmafungma sewaro' just like a hindu writes 'shree pashupatuinath...' . also u r very right about kirati mundhum, it is still in existence, in fact all of our religious ceremonies n rituals r carried on with accordance to mundhum, it is in simple a religious n folk literature of kiratis, very much explains our civilization being one distinct race of its own. it has been only roughly 200 years since the direct influence of hinduinization in general kiratis n annexetaion in hindu hierarchy as sudras or watever but we hav never accepted that. till now with only little modification n minor hinduism influence most of our cultures, rituals n traditions r very much intact. infact the aspiration for identity n cultural awareness has grown even more in this young generaion than previous one.

and the kipat u hav mentioned was still in practise untill mahendra brought land reform policy. it relates with land, the rights of indegenous which cant b alienated n can never b put in sale or mortgaged to other ethnic people away from certain kirati tribes. in those time the lands were distributed by gov in the name of raikar, jagir, guthi, etc. but kipat was never under soverign of the state but under the original people of that particular region. tax was exempt on this kind of land byt the state or they had no watsoever right to collect tax from such lands but tax was collected from individuals or people, it was kind of autonomous in nature. kirati of especially pallo kirat earned this rights becasue PNS was unable to suceed in annexing this region by force. if u look at the lalmohar presented by PNS, as per the agreement between morang or bijaypur and gorkha it clearly states about the autonomy which lured many other tribal states like Mewa Kingdom, Phedap Kingdom, Maiwa Kingdom and Tambar Kingdom. but yangwarok n illam resisted n allianced with sikkim to b later made to come under same term by force. this was how the system of kipat was created among kirati tribes in nepal but it is no more now.

 

 

somewhere in googlebook i read that gengis khan and his army eradicated 75% of the aryans. ath that who were in afghanistan. and then some of those 25% started moving toward kashmir, pak, india and some of thw chinese lands. Then, when gengish khan's army were in afghanistan, some groups spearated and moved toward nepal. and they were the kirats.

 

What do you expect Herealone.
The Kiratas scattered as several tribal groups were already living and making home in the ancient
 Indian-subcontinent regions including the himalayas. It had been discovered by the scholars that the kiratis were living as far as afghanistan to the west and bay of
bengal in the east. So in order to protect themselves and their land, they had to massacre the invading aryans my friend.
Anyway not wanting to create trouble, while upon researching, i came across this article about the
"maghe sakranti and yele sambat" in "the Himalyan Beacon" (http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/sunuwar-on-the-threshold-of-a-complete-revival/)
and HK Nepal (ttp://hknepal.com/wp/?p=5675)
I have extracted this articles and paste it here so maybe some of you can help me interpret or knows better than i do.


      "Dear kiranti’s,
      We have been confused with maghe sakranti and yele sambat and kiranti’s are misunderstood so i am submitting one article regarding yele sambat.

      “The Yele Sambat”

      By Chandra Prakash Sunuwar
      Dhobighat, Lalitpur, Kathmandu
      Email: cpsunuwar@hotmail.com

      THE YELE SAMBAT

      Yele sambat is kiranti new year and it used to celebrate in the time of maghe siri panchami or sukla panchami.This new
year used to celebrate since unknown ancient time by kiranti people as new year and considered this day as very lucky,Prosperouse
and happy day for all kirantis.This yele name is coming from king yalamber who officially declared this day as new year for kiranti people
so from his name this sambat or year is called yele sambat.This siri panchami or sukla panchami was so precious day for kiranti people
when the yalamber defeated the gopal dynasty king Bhuvansingh in nepal and started kiranti era this was day of siri panchami.
Altogether, there were 29 kings of this dynasty who ruled over Nepal for about 1225 years.

    But according to kirant bansawali record there is 34 kiranti king who ruled the Nepal . According to the chronicle (Bansawali) of Kirkpatrick,
Kiratas ruled over Nepal from about 900 B.C. to 300 A.D. During this long period, altogether 29 Kirat Kings ruled over the country’.yalamber
was such mighty and legendary kirant king who led the kirata in legendary Kuruksetra of Mahavarata. Kirant people considered him as
 god king as incarnation of mahadeva so he is called AKASH VAIRAB AS WELL. Another form of lord Siva or lord of terror.
The temple, a three storey structure now stands in the busy square of Indra Chowk is the temple of AKASH VAIRAB or temple of legendary
 kirant king yalamber. The twenty-nine Kings were : 1.Yalambar 2.Pari 3. Skandhar 4.Balamba 5.Hriti 6.Humati 7.Jitedasti 8.Galinja
9.Oysgja 10.Suyarma 11.Papa 12.Bunka 13.Swawnanda 14.Sthunko 15.Jinghri 16.nane 17.luka 18.Thor 19.Thoko 20.Verma 21.
Guja 21.Guja 22.Pushkar 23.kKeshu 24.Suja 25.Sansa 26.Gunam 27.Khimbu 28.Patuka 29.Gasti

      The last King of the Kirant dynasty was Gasti. He proved to be a weak ruler and was overthrown by the Sombanshi ruler Nimisha.
 It brought to the end of the powerful Kirant dynasty.When they defeated by Licchavis king they regrouped and formed the another
kirant kingdom in banepa. That day was maghe siri panchami or sukla pagnchami.Their new kirant kingdom was started from
Sanga Bhanjyang hill Kathmandu valley to Sikkim in east and remain as hostile power for the Licchavis. After Twenty years of
ruling in banepa as kiranti kingdom, later this kingdom was divided into 3 small kingdom, which they were called Wallo kirant, majh kirant and pallo kirant
with the different kings. Among them wallo kirant had boarder from sanga bhanjyang from west to dudh koshi in east.

    First king of wallo kirant was king Binicha.He was such mighty king and had power of wishful death only.
According to myth he had hidden Tupi{long hair in middle of the head} without cutting this he wouldn’t die this was his secrecy and famous for magic and art of warfare. Accodring to sunuwar kirant chronicle he used to form this wallo kirant in the time of maghe siri panchami or sukla panchami another form of yele sambat
 in Bhuji kot gaun in ramechap district so he declared that day is new year as it is like before. This new year used to celebrate like chandi beating dhole,
chyamta and sacrificing many animals and eating, drinking making socielize.in addition they used to do stick fighting, sword fighting khukuri fighting and game
of archery. This kind of game was so dangerous could easily break head and vulnerable to die as well but this was kiranti tradition and game of warrior race
 so nothing to do with this festival. Once passer-by two saints yogi named Kalbhairung and kal narsing seen this wallo kiranti new year and so much horrified.

     They Try to teach sunuwar this festival need to avoid because they seen many warrior bleeding and they took sword from them and brought In Hanuman Dhoka in Kathmandu. In addition all kirant young lad and lady get together and make appointment for marriage if they like each other. Pierced the ear for young people
to wear rings, cut the hair, get together the relatives, Build new houses, To give new clothes this is tradition in sunuwar.There is say for kiranti people no need
to see Sahit{good day} for start life journey. This festival was completely banned after conquest of gorkha darwar but still remain in the time of rana government
illegally but after rana government this festival is completely banned and all sort of kiranti documents were burned and destroy which the office used to
call Jatiya nasta bivag {gopal Gurung} but still old wallo kiranti sunuwar used to practice and celebrate this new year in time of maghe siri panchami.

    So recently first of all, wallo kiranti sunuwar start to celebrate this new year almost 10 years ago officially from sunuwar welfare society.
 Now limbu organisation recognise this new year as kiranti new year and start to follow sunuwar’s.This is not only by sunuwar and limbu but
we all kiranti must recognise our festival and revive our ancient pride. Nepal is kirant Deshe and ridiculously we are not celebrating our kirant festival
 and religion. We are such rich in historically, culturally and traditionally but we seems losing our all faith. This festival is not only lucky for kiranti but
many other people as well.
In the time of siri panchami, lord Buddha was born so all Buddhist celebrate Buddha jayanti{Buddha day} who was one of the greatest kirata scholar in past who gave Nirvana for all human being. He was the great teachers of all human race. Same day Chinese people have Chinese new year which is
called chunche there is strong connection with Chinese new year chunche and yele sambat.
 yele sambat and chunche might be same in past because kirata people were originated in Hunan province of china 6000 BC.

In this siri panchami Hindu goddess saraswati puja{worship}is done. She is the goddess of learning. She used to be kiranti goddess
Vedic people just forcefully trying to bring in Hindu fold.Sarswati in the Vedas was goddess of wealth, fruits and well being not as goddess
of learning and intelligence. Sarswati today is clothed with white colour which had derived from Khuluma of Tripuri kiranti people who is goddess
 of cotton and learning as she teaches us to weave and design the clothes. Khuluma is considered white colour as she for cotton. It clearly
shows goddess of learning saraswati is our kiranti god So value of siri panchami or sukla panchami is something beyond our
imagination for kiranti people. The full moon has different place for all living being. This is day of god,goddest,legendary story of wolf.
All living being are happy to see full moon.Kiranti people have myth and belief that
day all SIME,BHUME,NAG AND NAGINI{Goddess of earth, goddess of water and serpent king} They all come out on Earth
to breath and see the human activity and for blessing if they worship and appease them. This day people have belief that day
naga king or serpent god change him as human form so come in house disguising as yogi and blessed people so some people worship naga as well.

    Kiranti sunuwar has belief this day is important and it’s called KHARO BAR OR KHARO DIN so they have belief, that night 7 brother
 BANESKHANDI{JUNGLE GOD} come to visit every GOTH{HUT}to bless animal. There is folk lore that day kiranteswore mahadeva
 and kirantni parbati take bath in high Himalayan holy lake like JHATA POKHARI,NIRMAL POKHARI,BHUT POKHARI,PANCH
 POKHARI,GOSAI KUNDA,TILICHO TAL,CHYO ROLPA,HALESWARI,KAILASH MAN SAROWAR TAL AND other many more.
 For novelist, story writer, poem writer and lovers this full moon is something different. According to science sun start to move from
south pole to north pole so this new year the day of siri panchami is really really essential. All this kind of worship used to do in kiranti
 new year day the yele sambat.This yele sambat which we celebrating today in maghe siri panchami created confused for kiranti people
who doesn’t have sufficient historical knowledge about this and misunderstood as MAGHE SAKRANTI but this is not maghe sakranti this is yele
sambat kiranti new year which we celebrate in maghe siri panchmi.

    Because of time and difficulty of fixing the time some kiranti organisation start to celebrate in time of magh 1 gate but it has to be in time
 of maghe siri panchami or sukla panchami or basanta panchami. Kirata race were such ancient and used to tussle with god,goddess and demon
 in their daily life. They were only not ancient but also had very developed civilization like Indus civilization and Mohenjo-Daro civilization. Ancient Indian civilization is civilization of kirata.This great civilization was situated in north east Himalayan range of Mahavarata.
According to S.k chattarji north eastern kiranti civilization was key civilization of ancient India. They were the supreme power in that era.
If you see the 10000 BC Scientific human evolution film then you can find out how civilize we kiranti were in past. When southern Chinese
people used to cultivate paddy and living with happy civilize life that time, the westerner were struggling for resources and living in cave like jungle man.
 Due to dynamic of time they start to loose their colony,civilization,culture,tradition one after another but now this is our duty to restore ancestral pride and
their spirit. We must revive our own culture rather than to follow someone’s religion, culture and tradition so This is the time for all kiranti to celebrate
our own legendary new year the yele sambat.

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P.S In connection with this article i found this link http://kathmanduspeaks.blogspot.com/2007/03/mithila-sambat.html

which tells about Mithila Sambat,
  A letter published in Kantipur
    Words Ramnarayan Dev

Quoted from this site:

"Now, why Nepal Sambat and not any other sambat? Well, in case you know something outside Mithila and within Nepal, you
can find Kirat Sambat ( Yalambar was a real historical figure unlike myth of Janak or Sita), Buddha Sambat (Buddha had historical
and scientific existence unlike Janak and Sita and this Sambat commemorating a son of Nepal is being used in Thailand, Srilanka,
Burma, Laos etc amongst others), Lhosar, Hijri Sambat, Ishwi Sambat etc are also in use here."

From this articles i found out that Lord Buddha was born during Kirat rule and
he was the Kirati himself.
That Goddess Saraswati existed before the dawn of the Aryan just as Siva.
Anyone knowledge about "Jatiya nasta bivag"?
 the temple of AKASH VAIRAB at Indra Chowk.....!! how does it differs from Nepali concept?

what do you guys know about this?

well i be back after more conclusive readings but i'm sure these articles will help me with your feedbacks.
love
skh

This is what i learned so far from readings materials and books.

As of 2009, Kirat calendar is 5069 while Nepal is 2065 as English 2008/2009.

It is almost the same as the Chinese civilization.

Kirat New
Year (Kirat Sambat 5069) or (Yele Dong 5069) is
 the
Long forgotten New Year of Kirat people of Nepal. It is to be on the day of
Maghe Sankranti, 1st Magh..."misunderstood as MAGHE SAKRANTI but this is
not maghe sakranti".  This is

Yele sambat Kiranti new year which Kiratis celebrate in
maghe siri panchmi.

Kirat
community all around the world celebrated the Ubhouli Sakela/Sakewa
Festival to welcome their New Year.

Therefore Nepal Year is 5069 and not 2065 if we are to go with the earliest civilization of Nepal.

Anyone could help me if you have any insights into "Jatiya nasta bivag" please!

skh

so what am i saying SKH? am i saying something against kiratis? even if someone says what ure saying...you think ure the only one who is unique and with brains...

what do u expect herealone?...do u see me expecting anything????

 

i love present (means no) king, hehe. sakiye ko kuro sakisakyo, aba naya kura socha na sathi. pheri tyo mula gyan bahadur or baby nati lai powerless raja hunu or banaunu ko sato ta janata ko chhoro Dr Ram Baran Yadav jasta nai thik chhan ni.