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Posted on 07-25-05 10:00 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepal is becoming a Republic Country very soon. Recent steps of The King is so favourable for the this movement, we will see a different Nepal in less than a couple of years.

Please Keep on posting the news, articles, your personal view in this tread that support this movement. Somebody who disagree with this is equally welcome to put their views.
LONG LIVE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF NEPAL !!!

- http://www.kantipuronline.com/nepali/kolnews.php?&nid=46677



 
Posted on 07-25-05 10:18 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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You must really have shit for brains. To start this thread again. Where are you going to get the $$$$ to fund this so called republic govt. ? And you seriously thin Nepali people are ready for a republic ? You think they would have the likes and decipline like tha Scandinavian countries. You should know better looking at Venezuala(what happened to it economically and socially).
 
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Bathroomcoffee, Sajha Readers will decide who has what in his/her brain. Just keep in mind I do not lack the vocabulary to insult you.

I do not understand your logic where will we bring money to run a Republic Nepal. Where are we getting money now and what will be different after Nepal become Republic. I do not think any country gives money to develop Nepal. They have their own interests. In fact, the World Bank and IMF are the key organizations that helps to make poor country poorer. We could discuss this in different time.

People of Nepal are no different than people of Scandinavian Countries or any countries in the world. What makes one person different from other is education, his social structure. Do not forget time is big factor in any things. Why do want to go Europe just look the history of India. It also took them almost four decades to flourish their democratic values. Do not you see different in India of early 90s and India of 2005. Are you aware with history of Western Europe? Do you know what French did in French Revolutions ? Do you know the history of Monarchy in England ? It is the 21st century and nobody has birth right rule people. It is people who will decide who will rule them.

What's wrong with Venezuela? That's good example of how the power of people work. Do you know what is the role of the US to destabilise Venezuela. Hugo Chavez is working for 90 % of population in the country. Read the country profile of Venezuela in the following BBC website, I hope you can make some conclusion of there. I will be happy to read your views with decent language.

- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/country_profiles/1229345.stm

 
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Yo Turb,
YEah easy to say Republic. But where the hell are you going to get the $$$ to establish the Socio-economic infrastructure ? Its very easy to talk ideologies but hard to followup on them in practicality. .with the current economic state of NEpal its not even feasible(with all the Vampires sucking the GOVT dry..where are you going to get $$$ for healthcare, pensions etc etc all those amenities Republic is supposed to provide to its members? ).
I AM FAMILIAR WITH HISTORY 101 ..YES. If Rajiv Gandhi had not modernized India in the 80's India would not be where it is today(he opened up the market and let the foreign investors in LIKE MARUTI, HONDA, KAWASAKI ETC ETC). Just look at how long it took for industrial revolution to settle down(including the great depression). You think chavez is doing ok running Venezuala like a Dictator? I Like the fact that he is pissing off US with his antics(including the commie radio station.. he just is pissin off The Dubya admin). when you make nepal a republic You are going to have another moron telling you what to do like it or not.
People's patience is running out. With a Republic Govt starting new afresh ..we might not see any stability in Nepal for another 10 yrs. Then by that time we will have another insurgency.. and the cycle will keep going on and on. IS that what you want ?
 
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बिसे नगर्चीको बयान
श्रवण मुकारुङ
मालिक !
म यो गोरखा राज्यमा
अढाई सय वर्षपछि बौलाएँ ।
मेरो टाउको फनफनी घुमिरहेछ
जमिन आकाशतिर
आकाश जमिनतिर भइरहेछ
आँखा तिर्मिरतिर्मिर भएर
हजुरको शिर दसवटा देखिरहेछु
खोइ मेरो पैताला कहाँनिर छ ?
कहाँनिर छ बिसे नगर्ची ?
मालिक !
म बौलाएँ ।
मैले त महाराजको सेवा गर्नुपर्ने
इतिहासको रक्षा गर्न
यो गोरखकालीको पाउ छोएर
नुनको सोझो हुनुपर्ने
अढाई सय वर्षपछि आज के भयो मलाई ?
यो बिसेलाई दशा लाग्यो मालिक !
म बौलाएँ ।
नाथे मेरी स्वास्नी न हो मारिएकी
नाथे मेरी छोरी न हो बलात्कृत भएकी
नाथे यो बिसेको झुप्रो न हो जलाइएको
यतिमै यो बिसे उप|mनुपर्ने ? थुइक्क बिसे ... ।
म बौलाएँ मालिक !
म बौलाएँ ।

मेरो हात भाँचियो
अब म हजुरका भारदारहरूलाई लवेदा सिउन सक्दिनँ
नर्सिङ्गा फुक्न/सनाई बजाउन
अथवा कुनै मङ्गलगान वा मृत्युगीत गाउन सक्दिनँ
मेरो खुट्टा भाँचियो
अब म हजुरको राज्यको पहरा गर्न सक्दिनँ
मेरो दिमागै ठीकमा छैन
अब म ठिक्कले बोल्न सक्दिनँ
मालिक ! म बौलाएँ ।
मालिक !
यो गोरखा राज्यअघि उभिएका
हिजोका ती अग्ला अग्ला पहाडहरू
आज कसरी यस्तरी होचाहोचा भए ?
हिजोका ती सग्ला र कल्कलाउँदा यहाँका मानिसहरू
आज कसरी यस्तरी खुनी र कुरूप भए ?
यो दरौँदी किन उल्टो बगेको देख्छु ?
यो दरबारै किन खण्डहरजस्तो देख्छु ?
म बौलाएँ मालिक ! म बौलाएँ ।
मालिक !
हजुरको तरबारले टाउको काट्छ कि फूल ?
भ्रममा परेँ म
हजुरको बन्दुकले विचार ढाल्छ कि मान्छे ?
भ्रममा परेँ म
यस राज्यलाई प्रजाले बनायो कि राजाले ?
भ्रममा परेँ म
अढाई सय वर्षदेखि म तपाईंसमक्ष छु मालिक !
म कसरी आतङ्ककारी हुनसक्छु ?
म केवल बौलाएँ मालिक !
बौलाएँ ।
हो, मैले मालिकको दिव्योपदेश पालन गरिनँ हुँला
रक्सी खाएर
यो देश मैले पनि आर्जेको हुँ भनेँ हुँला
भानुभक्त बाजेको गीत र मेरो सियो बराबर हो भनेँ हुँला
मैले सिएका सुकिला लुगा ओढेकाहरूलाई
मेरो नाङ्गो आङ देखाएँ हुँला
बौलाएपछि मैले मेरै भगवान्लाई पनि गाली गरेँ हुँला
मालिक !
मान्छे बौलाएपछि आफैँसित पनि निहुँ खोज्दोरहेछ
अढाई सय वर्षदेखि मैले तुनेका थाङ्नामा हुर्केका
मेरा दरसन्तानहरू कहाँकहाँ पुगे ?
मैले खोज्न चाहेँ हुँला
मेरा औँलामा खोपिएका छ्यान्द्रा र बगेका रगतहरूले मलाई उक्सायो
तरबारले आर्जेको मुलुकभन्दा
मैले धागोले उनेको मुलुक विशाल ठानेँ हुँला
मालिक !
यस माटोको इतिहाससँगै म हजुरको राष्ट्रमा छु
म कसरी अराष्ट्रिय हुन सक्छु ?
म साँच्चै बौलाएँ मालिक !
साँच्चै बौलाएँ ।
मेरो टाउको फनफनी घुमिरहेछ
जमिन आकाशतिर
आकाश जमिनतिर भइरहेछ
आँखा तिर्मिरतिर्मिर भएर
हजुरको शिर दसवटा देखिरहेछु
खोइ मेरो पैताला कहाँनिर छ ?
कहाँनिर छ बिसे नगर्ची ?
मालिक ! म बौलाएँ

 
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Don't have Devnagar....
 
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'Mock parliament' gives nod for talks with Maoist

A ?mock session? of the dissolved House of Representatives and the National Assembly (NA) Tuesday endorsed the idea of dialogue with the CPN (Maoist) as part of resolving the protracted crisis.

The mock session attended by the members of the dissolved parliament, incumbent and former NA members and senior leaders of the seven-party alliance passed a motion accepting the talks offer from the rebel party. According to the resolution, the seven parties will form a team to negotiate with the Maoists.

The meet also denounced the recently promulgated ordinances governing the I/NGOs and the civil servants.

The mock parliament denounced the verdict of the Royal Commission for Control of Corruption (RCCC) slapping two-year jail term and Rs.90 million fine to former Prime Minister and Nepali Congress (Democratic) president Sher Bahadur Deuba and former minister Prakash Man Singh convicting them of corruption in Melamchi Drinking Water Project. The all-powerful anti-graft body also handed one-year to two-year jail term and heavy penalty to three government officers and the contractor of the project.

Reading out the motion passed by the session, National Assembly vice-chairman Ramprit Paswan, who chaired the session, said the RCCC verdict is unconstitutional and politically motivated.

Addressing the mock session, Nepali Congress president Girirja Prasad Koirala said the parties? agitation would thrash the feudalistic quarters. ?Feudalists should start packing up their luggage,? the NC boss warned. The seven-party movement, he said, would not end unless total democracy is restored in the country.

Likewise, CPN (UML) leader Madhav Kumar Nepal said, ?The royal regime is intent on branding those standing in favour talks with Maoists as terrorists and declare banned the political parties that oppose the royal takeover.? ?The decision of the royal commission shows their tendency.?

 
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Mista Turb,
've u lost yer marbles ? must be living in lalaland. As the topic states MOCK. The morons participating on this discussions are all Sour Grapes(cause they got their power taken from them by the current govt..not that I am a suporter of king).
I am not interested in petty disputes between the corrupt leader of Nepal. I am more concerned about bringing stability to Nepal so that all the unemployed can have jobs and responsibility(so that they do not get involved in disrupting daily progress of Nepal). As they idle mind is where the devil presides. If you give them jobs they won't be out protesting everyday.
Bringing a republic means handing power to these very morons that are creating havoc in Nepal. I am not in support of that at all. BESIDES I PERSONALLY DO NOT THINK A REPUBLIC IS GOING TO WORK AT ALL IN NEPAL.
 
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\"BESIDES I PERSONALLY DO NOT THINK A REPUBLIC IS GOING TO WORK AT ALL IN NEPAL.\" You may be right. But let\'s give it a try. If it doesn\'t work, we can put some moron once again on the throne. To choose a new king, a new Liglige Run may prove to be of some use.

 
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Makar, Not that republicanism is bad or anything but when you say "But let\'s give it a try." it's not like trying on a new shirt if you don't like it you can just leave it without any harm done.

If you try out rebublicanism, there are a lot of lives to be lost, lot of instability, at least during the execution phase and who knows what considering the types of leaders in nepal. Then if we find out it does not work, it might not be possible to revert back to where we are. Might be too late. Maybe it will have to be taken over by India. So even before you want to think about giving it a try, have you thought of all possible scenarios? Just trying to be more practical here.
 
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Makar,
That means wasting valuable time. Sooner the stabilty means sooner Nepal gets back in its path to progress. Trying this and that means sidetracking that very process. Now the one on the throne did say that he will put the country back on track . I do not understand why people have a hard time giving him a chance ??? He is already half way there(meaning in power).. why not wait and see. The way I see it....all these focker that are complaining about democracy, human right blah blah blah. Well they had their freakin' chance ...the state of the country went from bad to worse during their regime. This dude on the throne is promising a lotta new things GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO PROVE HIMSELF IS ALL I AM SAYING(not that I am a fan of his).
I still think a republic is not a proper govt for Nepal(its evident just looking at the line for milk at the local dairy every morning)
 
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Who is Shrawan? With due acknowledgement to KOL:

 
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GP,
With due respect who is this clown fisting in the air ?
 
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बिसे नगर्ची - यो भनेको के हो ?
 
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Sardarsing, I hope this article by Khagendra Samgrula will answer your curiosity.

भानुभक्त, गोरखा र बिसे नगर्ची
असार २९ गतेको कुरा । म गोरखा हिँडेँ । सन्दर्भ थियो भानु जयन्ती । निम्ता गरिपठाउने आयोजक गोरखाली साहित्य सङ्गम । मनमा सदाझैँ उन्मुक्तिको उमङ्गमय भावना जागेर आयो । सम्झेँ, म काठमाडौँको साँघुरो कैदबाट थानकोटबाहिरको विशाल फाँटमा निस्कँदैछु । तर, सँगसँगै मनमा अत्यासको निसास टनाटन भरिएको थियो । बाटामा ठाउँठाउँमा कालले थापेका धरापहरू यथावत् होलान् । पैह्रो जाने पहाडमुन्तिर एउटा धराप । दोहोरो गोलाबारीबीचको जोखिमपूर्ण चेपमा अर्को धराप । सडकमुनि छद्मभेषमा अर्को बिजुली धराप । सामाजिक मानचित्रभरि नै धरापको व्याप्ति छ । हामी पलपल पाइला-पाइलामा क्रूर कालले पछ्याइरहने समयमा बाँच्न श्रापित छौँ । कालका स्रष्टाहरूको भोक मेटिने कहिले हो केही थाहा छैन ।

सहयात्रीको हाम्रो टोली सप्तरङ्गी इन्द्रेणीजस्तो थियो, विविध र रोचक बान्कीको । साथमा मेरा पुराना आन्दोलनकारी मास्टर मित्र मोहननारायण श्रेष्ठ थिए । वाहनमा सबभन्दा अगाडि जोई दीक्षा पोखरेल, सबभन्दा पछाडि पोइ सलील देवकोटा । बीचमा अखण्डै रसिक प्रकाश सायमी, आगामी सुन्दरी मेलाकी संयोजक सिर्जना जोशी र म । सत्कारको मुद्रामा हामीलाई गोरखातिर डोर्?याउने साहित्य सङ्गमका सचिव सुरेश देवकोटा पनि पछाडि नै थिए ।

वाहन हाम्रा सांसदहरूलाई खूबै मनपर्ने जातको थियो, भरपर्दो र आरामदायी । त्यो इन्जिनियर सलीलजीको सहृदयताको फल थियो । सर्पको चालमा डोलायमान हुँदै वाहन गड्दो छ, म मनमा अनेक कुरा खेलाउँदो छु । गोरखा मूलतः कसको पुख्र्यौली थलो हो ? एकल पात्र पृथ्वीनारायण शाहको कि अगणित धरतीपुत्र बिसे नगर्चीहरूको ? इतिहासभरि विशालकाय यी राजा छाइरहे, लघुकाय नगर्चीको नाम इतिहासको पादटिप्पणी मात्र भइरह्यो । थाहा छ, पादटिप्पणी जोकोहीले पढ्दैन । र नै यतिका दिनसम्म नगर्चीको नाम पढिएन ।
तर, चेतनाका पङ्ख फिँजाउँदै समय गाढा तन्द्राबाट ब्यूँझिन खोजिरहेको म देख्छु । र, त अहिले बिसे नगर्चीको चर्चा छ । श्रवण मुकारुङको कवितामा नगर्ची गर्जिरहेछन्, 'मालिक ! दुई सय वर्षपछि म बौलाएँ ।' यही गर्जन मैले वैरागी काइँलाको कविता 'मातेको मान्छेको भाषण मध्यरातपछिको सडकसित' मा सुनेको थिएँ । वैरागीको कवितामा मातेको मान्छेको भाकामा दमित र निषिद्ध सत्य बोलिएथ्यो, यी आलिशान महलहरू, फगत शासन गर्ने खलकका, यस्तैयस्तै । लाग्छ, श्रवणका नगर्ची काइँलाको मातेको मान्छेकै अर्को संस्करण हुन् । मातेको मान्छे काइँला आफैँ हुन् र नगर्ची श्रवण आफैँ हुन् । कविताको कलेवरमा यो अपहेलित र वञ्चितहरूको विद्रोहको सिर्जनशील आवाज हो । यो आवाज भयानक छ ।
वाहन गुडिरहेछ । मनमा उनै बिसे नगर्ची नाचिरहेछन् । वाहन हठात् रोकियो । देखेँ, अगाडि बाटामा फौजी चेक छ । आङमा त्यसैत्यसै काँडा उमि्रए । चेकले बन्दुकको छायाँमुनि मानिसलाई पशुत्वमा गिराउँछ । बसबाट ओराल्छ । डोरीको बीचमा लुखुर-लुखुर हिँडाउँछ । टुकुचाको डिलमा खसी किन्नेले खसीका चाउरी परेका जाइफल छामेझैँ गरी यसो झोला छाम्छ । अभिनय अचम्म छ । न ध्यानले चेक गरिन्छ, न कहिल्यै केही फेला पर्छ । तर, यातनाकारी चेकेको नाटक भने अटुट छ । यो सार्वत्रिक सैनिकीकरणको सुनियोजित अभ्यास हो । यो नागरिक स्वतन्त्रताविरोधी एउटा दीर्घ रोग हो । लाग्छ, जनआन्दोलनको अदम्य आँधीबाहेक केहीले पनि यो रोगको उपचार गर्न सक्दैन ।

चेकपछि चेक छिचोल्दै हाम्रो लघु टोली गोरखा पुग्यो । विनयशील गोरखाले मुस्कानमय अभिवादनले पाहुनागणको स्वागत गर्?यो । मृदु मुस्कान झुन्डिएका भावुक ओठ रुद्र पोखरेल, शिव अपि्रय, जयराम श्रेष्ठहरूका थिए । टन्न भात खाइयो र खुत्रुक्क तल जिविस हलमा गइयो । हल सुरुमा अर्ध-नग्न थियो, पछि त्यो खचाखच भरियो ।
सिलोकमा र वचनमा भानुभक्तको सम्झना गरियो । कुरा प्रायसः उनै पुराना थिए । नेपालीमाझ भावनात्मक एकीकरण गरिदिने भानुभक्त । जनजनका मनमा रामराज्यको आदर्श फिँजाइदिने भानुभक्त, आदि । त्यो सुन्दा मलाई कुनै जर्जर टेपको कर्कश स्वर सुनेझैँ लाग्यो । असमान र अन्यायपूर्ण सम्बन्धमा जेलिएको समाजका विविध पक्षलाई भाषाले एकीकरण गर्छ ? नारी अस्मिता र स्वतन्त्रताको बागी चेतनाले भानुभक्तीय नारी-विम्बलाई सकार्छ ? सामन्ती रामराज्य एक्काइसौँ शताब्दीको शासनको आदर्श हुनसक्छ ? भाषणमा मैले भनेँ, भानुभक्त बाजेले एउटा असल काम गरे । तिनले संस्कृतबाज कर्मकाण्डी पुरेतहरूका एकाधिकारी पन्जाबाट थुतेर काव्यलाई नेपाली भाषामा जनसाधारणको समीपमा पुर्?याए । बस् ।

गोरखामा केही कुरा मलाई बिर्सिनसक्नु लागे । त्यहाँ लुते राजनीति मस्तसँग घुरिरहेको छ । तथापि विद्यार्थी र कविहरूले जसोतसो चेतनाको घिडघिडो थामेका छन् । कविता वाचन गर्नेहरूको लाममा किशोरीहरूको ताँती दृष्टिगोचर भयो । नारी जागरणको एउटा आसलाग्दो दसी हो त्यो । गोरखामा नागरिक समाज र नागरिक प्रशासनको नाता निकै राम्रो देखेँ । प्रजिअ तारानाथ गौतम, स्थानीय विकास अधिकारी केदार बोगटी र प्रहरी नायक उपरीक्षक ईश्वरीबाबु कार्की तीनै जना साहित्यनुरागी । मञ्चमा तीनै जना हुनुहुन्थ्यो । त्यो पनि फगत लोकाचार पूरा गर्न हैन, नागरिक भेषमा विनयशील कवि भएर । शाही शासनमा मैले अन्त त्यस्तो विरलै देखेको छु । शान्त र सौम्य साहित्यिक कार्यक्रमहरूमा व्यवधान पैदा गर्ने ठालु हाकिमहरू भने मैले कति देखेको छु, कति !

पाँच घण्टा लामो कार्यक्रम डाँडाको घामसँगै तुरियो । तर, सहभागीहरूमा थकानरहित उमङ्ग भने जीवितै रह्यो । आतिथेय मित्रहरूको प्रबल आग्रह थियो- मित्र, आखिर नआउनु आइहालियो, तैतै डाँडामाथिको प्राचीन शाही दरबार हेर्न किन नजाऊँ ? मलाई भने बिसे नगर्चीको गाउँ हेर्न जाने रहर थियो । तर, त्यहाँ नगर्चीको नाम कसैले पनि लिएन । मन खिसि्रक्क भयो । नगर्ची उनको जन्मथलो गोरखामा अझै इतिहासको पादटिप्पणीमै विस्मृत छन् । मुकारुङको कविता गोरखामा पुगेकै छैन । जब त्यो पुग्छ, गोरखाले शनैशनै आँखा खोल्नेछ । र, महाराज पृथ्वीनारायण शाहको दरबार हेर्न झुत्तिनेहरूको लस्कर नागरिक बिसे नगर्चीको बस्तीतिर माडिने छ । जब त्यो दिन आउँछ, गोरखामा नागरिक इतिहासको नयाँ बिहानीको सूर्योदय हुनेछ ।

 
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