Friends,

Coming Friday's Pro-democracy Rally in NY is, in every sense, Diaspora's equivalent of "Citizen's Movement for Democracy and Peace" in Nepal.

What is "Citizen's Movement for Democracy and Peace" ?

It is people's saying, "Enough is enough".

It's saying, "Enough with King's insuppressible greed for power, enough with political parties' impotency, enough with Maoists' abuse of legitimate political cause to promote anachronistic ideology and violence, and enough with the freaking eternal quagmire they are in."

The most important of all, perhaps, it is also saying, "Enough with our own cynicism, apathy and passiveness".

Let's take initiative on our own to let ourselves, political powers and the whole world know what we want and how we want, once for all. Let's speak up. That's what "Citizen's movement for democracy and peace" is all about.

And damn. It's working. It's already showing its affects everywhere.

Common people, through their participation and display to the leaders, poets and artists kind of love and respect never seen before, and the movement, through it's determination to spread it throughout the country no matter what, has already established itself as an ad hoc political leadership until political parties reform enough to reclaim people's trust and thereby popular political leadership to the movement for Loktantra.

Let's show up at Dag Hammarskjold Plaza, NY on this Friday to let ourselves and the whole world know our longing for democracy and peace and to make a small but glorious history of how we took time to show our respect and solidarity to activists, professionals, poets, artists and common people rising Nepal ko basti basti baata, gaaun gaaun baata.

See you all who are close enough to make it to Dag Hammarskjold Plaza, NYC, 12:00 noon, Friday 16th September 2005.

Nepe

- http://www.nyrally.org/
- http://samudaya.org/dissent/

Hand of a poet, who probably made a world history by making people loving to buy tickets to listen to his revolutionary poems in Kathmandu !

anti,

It is said a person who is at sleep could be woken up but the one who is pretending to be asleep could not be woken up. The case with you is the same.

Who is saying we need monarchy? But the fact is we have monarchy. Why do you blind fold on the fact that removing monarchy will cost lotta bloodshed? You know well and everbody knows well, peace could be reached thriough comprimise and nothing else.

Hi! Anti Monarchy!

We do need monarchy for protection of sovereignty and our mother from being raped
from Indian Dhoti, do you know that?

where were you when ur king bro raped and his son killed his own fellow nepali or are you saying they have birth right to do it?

highfly

I was blind before cause I used to think the way very few people think now?.If we look the history, monarchy has been killing people to be in power??they killed in 17 sal they killed in 25 sal they killed in 36 sal and they killed 46 sal and now too they are killing innocent people in the name of terrorist ??.It was the govt who said there fewer then 5 thousand terrorists but by now more 11000 people have been dead and we still have Maoist all over the country
Monarchy system did nothing besides making us beggars and it would do nothing besides making us terrorist?Only monarchy system was and is responsible to create Mao problem and I am ready sacrifice monarchy system to have lasting peace and multiparty democracy with presidential system?.
There is right and wrong way to compromise??if Ranas come and say they would restore peace if we let then have Rana rule like before? I guess you say no?.if bahun come and tells he would restore peace if we officially accept castism I guess you would say no for that too?..same way I believe there is room for monarchy system in 21st century??..if we accept monarchy system then why shouldn?t we accept rana only family.
Would you accept Maoist if they say they would keep peace but they want to Nepal as communist sate with one party rule?
There is no place for monarchy system in My Nepal
gadtantra jinadabad mao and raj tantra murdabad

I predict the effectiveness of this rally to be the same or less than the one that was held in DC few months back.
If I were to categorize the people who joined the protest, I would come up with 3 of them:
1) The Maoists protesting in the name of democratic republic, whose only short-run aim is to bring the King down no matter how as he has been their biggest obstacle before their goal to make Nepal a communist state after may be getting the Nepalese population down by few thousands or millions, and that too if their thirst for blood is quenched.
2) The corrupt, opportunist ?would like to be? politicians, or ex-politicians or ex-government representatives post 1990, who again see King as their biggest obstacle to their spree of hoarding country?s money and selling it to India.
3) And then there are few who really view King as an obstacle to the democratic progress and development of Nepal and would genuinely want to see a change for the betterment of the country and not personal.

Now the problem is, the people from Group 2 have connections and ability to deceive and mis-guide and can amass few hundred Nepalese ?bhedas? easily in US to protest for democracy in Nepal with their hidden self interest. Then comes along, people from Group 1, with hidden agenda of their own but find democracy in Nepal and King the obstacle, as a common denominator with Group 2 to team up. These two different groups are ready to backstab each other if their common denominator is ever to be achieved, as their self-interests and hidden agenda vary. However, they manage to work together at least at the basic level.

And Group 3, no one gives a shit about them. Group 1 and Group 2, know that what Group 3 wants, a genuine democracy in Nepal, is not possible as long as their own existence remains. And these people from Group 3 are less influential in such protests and have few ?bhedas? who follow them because people who have belief in them and share the same view believe that to bring a real change in Nepal, one should be in Nepal holding such protest and choose to rather watch College Football on TV than to bake themselves in the sun of by celebrating ?Ghai-Jatara? or an early ?Halloween? in USA.

Viewing your grouping I don?t come under 1 or 2?..However I have no problem be friend with group one or two if they believe in people power means if they are agree to stand in election and accept what ever people decide??.In fact I have no problem accept anyone as head of state whoever gets people vote and that person could be ex king gyne or ex cp paras or ex killer baburam prachanda or ex looters politicians or anyone one Nepali who gets majority to of vote.
I might be alone but I would still oppose monarchy system cause I believe in equal right and I believe country belongs to People not its rulers and only people have right to give that right to ruler via vote

anti,

As I said before its not possible to wake up person who is pretending to be asleep. You are talking as if we had no king and some dude just took over power and started calling himself king.

The things you are talking about, rationalize it. Show the feasiblity. How the democratic republic is possible? How will you remove the king? So you want the civil war to continue.

Everybody with sane brain knows it that the peace will come only through comprimise. The king will never give up crown. You can only dream about it. But if you really want to work for peace, every party involved should work on the negotiated settlement.


I am tired of reapeating the same thing over and over again. If you have a sane brain give a thaught to underlying issues.

Its not whom you want to be in power and whom I want to be in power. Its about Nepal as a whole. The things that will bring peace and prosperity to our country.

We gotta work on the framework first. Then convince with its action plan. Then rest all of all will support. Its not gonna work without convincing people that removal of king will not bring maoists or the same old corrupt polticians in the power.

Corrupt polticians were killing poor. King is doing the same. Maos will just kill every opponent. So why people give up life or fight for these people.

All I am saying is lets bring all in the same boat for the sustainable peace.

Peace

Tired and Frustated

HF

Well highfly I have been saying to you and others I am not politician and I don?t have all the answers of the problem?..If I could forecast about future I would be the greatest person of the world??..I am just an ordinary person who believe that every one is equal no one is above then anyone??I believe our collective power makes some one to lead us. I believe we people should use that power so we could say that person represent me ( if he/she is my choice ) or represent us if majority people choose that person??..I would never accepted none elected as my leader?????.. You seem very smart and intelligent. I don?t how what future would bring. I don?t know how many people have to loose their levies I wish I could know and could stop it??.
Yes I know king wouldn?t give up power?.if everyone who give up power there wouldn?t be killing,,,,,,if Kintipure king had given up when prtitivi attackd, lots of people wouldn?t have to lose life and who live didn?t have to lose their noses and ears???..
If UK had given up India easily lost of Indian wouldn?t have died during independence war??.if Rana had given power easily there would be Sahids??and lost of people didn?t have to be dead so now we could say Rana rule was dark period of Nepal??..
We can?t keep immoral system which based in discrimination saying it saves life??if that case slavery would never have gone if that case sati partha would have never abolished??.Immoral system in long term damaged us more ??..
Freedom is birthright so no one has right to take it elected or none elected??.