नेपालभासया  महाकवि सिद्धिदास महाजुं "जिमिगु भाय नेवारी मखु नेपालभास  ख:" धका आन्दोलन न्ह्याकादीगु ८० दं ति दये धुन्कल | तर आ नं "नेवारी" धाइपिं यक्व हे दु | खस् भास छ्यलीपिन्सं ला "नेवारी" या सक्कली नां "नेपालभास" ख: धका ए मथू थें च्वन | न्ह्याथाय नं "नेवारी" "नेवारी" च्वया हैरान ए यायू | तर आ फेसबुक पाखें छगू बाँलागु ज्या जू वन | आ "नेवारी" मखु "नेपालभास" छ्यले मा: धैगु चेतना वइ कि?

Almost 80 years ago, the great poet Siddhidas Mahaju said "Our language is not 'Newari', it is Nepalbhas." But the word "Newari" is still used by many people. Most of them do not know what is wrong with "Newari", particularly among the "Khas" language users. Now the popular social network site has taken down the word "Newari" from its profile database. Thousand of pages using the word "newari" are replaced by "Nepalbhasha" according to an article posted on nepalmandal dot com.

I would appreciate if Sajha could also correct the wrongly used word.

Details here: http://www.nepalmandal.com/content/12548.html

फेसबुकं 'नेवारी' खँग्वः लिकाल

न्ववाइगु भाय्‌या सूचीइ 'नेवारी' खँग्वः लिकयाः 'नेपालभाषा' तयेगु इनाप लिपा अन्ततः सोसल नेटवर्क साइट फेसबुकं 'नेवारी' खँग्वःयात पूर्ण रुपं चिइकूगु दु । थ्वया लिपा आः फेसबुक छ्यलीपिं द्वलंद्वः नेवाःतय् प्रोफाइलय् न्ववाइगु भाषाया रुपय् नेपालभाषा धकाः खनेदये धुंकूगु दु ।

न्हूगु परिवर्तन लिपा फेसबुकय् थःम्ह न्ववाइगु भाय्‌ धकाः प्रोफाइलय् भाय्‌या नां 'nepal ..' निसें च्वयेगु शुरु याःसा 'Nepal Bhasa' धकाः अटो कम्पलिट अप्सन बिइ । अथे हे 'newa' प्यंगः आखः टाइप यायेवं 'Newar / Nepal Bhasa' धकाः अप्सन बिइ । यदि 'newari' धकाः भाय्‌या नां च्वत धाःसा उगु भाय्‌या नां स्वतः नेपालभाषा धकाः हिलाबिइ, 'newari' धकाः भाय्‌या नां च्वके बिइमखु । उलि जक मखु थ्व स्वयां न्ह्यः नेवारी धकाः थःगु भाय्‌या नां च्वयातःपिनि दक्वसिया प्रोफाइलय् 'Newar / Nepalbhasa' धकाः स्वतः हिउगु दु ।

लुमंके बह जू, विश्वया दक्वं भाषाया नां व कोड ISO या ज्या याइगु लाइब्रेरि अफ कंग्रेसलिसे नेवाःतय्‌सं न्ववाइगु भाय्‌यात नेपालभाषा धकाः च्वयेत इनाप लिपा न्हापा नेवारी धकाः जुयाच्वंगु नांयात छुं दँ न्ह्यः नेवारी, नेपालभाषा धकाः भिंकूगु खः । नेपालभाषाया ISO 639-2 कोड new खः ।

Yakku,

"- You are talking about ........... with a Tharu from Bardiya."
I have already answered that head-count analysis is useless when there is systematic discrimination. I have already stated that if I am given to prioritize the languages of Nepal, I will place Khas at the number 1, then other languages - Magar, Maithali, Tharu, Tamang, Newar etc. will follow. I am not going to claim Newar to be number 1,2,3 despite being myself a newar. I think, now you understand how much I respect Khas, but I do not support "khas-only" mindset.

"By the way, I haven't heard Mahabir Pun .......... every possible way."
 I still have a few emails in my archive where Mahabir Pun dai has mentioned his disatisfaction and complaints.  I do not want to disclose them here in sajha. Believe me he is also not happy with this unitary-khas-domination policy. Despite receiving support and applauds on his fabulous contribution and dedication, he is still walking on thorns.
 

"Who is saying ....... own."
Did I ask Khas people should educate Newars? I just said, the rules, system, the laws, the state-mechanism is discriminatory only in favor of khas-language. You clearly don't understand what is the problem.

Thats what you are asking from me ( the KHAS people in your words), Your case is directed to a Clan (the KHAS clan) more than a government of Nepal.

"How exactly are KHAS people ..........tarei basis and Janajatis."
Get an idea about state fund expenditure on sahitya, education, public documentation, official record keeping, promotion-preservation of culture for different language group and compare, you will see clear picture about it. You think 20% newars still go to the river bank or fields to excrete? then could you care to tell how much % of other people like you go to river bank or fields to excrete? 80%?

If you think state funds are spent unfairly among all tribal languages then you have a valid point. This being said....i know more emphasis will be provided for Common Language...eg when you write a good book....the one written in the common language will make more money than a tribal language...hence the result of more activity and attention to the common language. Here is what i can say to help you....when you elect your next Newar representative...make sure you elect someone who will address your issue in the government. Ask Narayan Man Bijukche to spend more money in Newar preservation. Bhaktapur collects lots of Dollars from tourism and ask him to spend more in Newar benefits. I am sure Narayan Man is not collecting money and sending that tho Pyuthan for an irrigation or drinking water project. Ask those questions to Ganesh Man shrestha family, Narayan Man Bijuchkche...Mohan Baidhyas...Industrialsts like Padma ratnas...bhajuratns brothers..Amatya brothers and so on...Not an ordinary Nepali who just happens to have a common Nepali language as his/her mother tounge.

"Yes................ you are."
you wrote- "do not ask for your rights???? creat rights????" This makes no sense. You don't understand what you are writing.

"Ha ha...You Newars had a monopoly ......... Timile Kindaina Jau" when asked for a price...LMAO."
LOL. Newah businessmen were protected by khas kings? You think mithai pasal, sari pasal, grocery pasal were protected by khas kings? ha ha ha ha. I never read such lowly opinion. If your line of thinking is true - khas kings promoted newar businessmen, khas leaders promoted indian businessmen, OK? Do you feel good now? The truth is, Newars were on top notch of business when they were good, they slipped down when they became rude on customers as you gave in an example. Zero-role of khas kings on their rise and fall.

Newars never had customer service towards KHE, Marshya, and burmu people. The famous saying " Ana su wola so so....manu makhu marshya kha" attitude is responsible for your culture's demise. You guys are never good at trading....They were top notch till there was no competition...once the competition arrived they were wiped out.

I am also eagerly waiting for you to  respond to your fellow clan on the other thread where she is asking all Newars to view the Indian Film Fair video...please do not forget ti spill your insight there.

@ Sidster
Chana jasto racism le andho bhako manche sanga bahas garera kehi faida chhaina.....

@ Chana
maile bujhe samma nepal ma sarkar bata sabai bhanda sahuliyat ra kadar paaeko jaat nai newar ho ra culture nai newar ko culture ho. Sarkar le indrajaatra manauna karodau rupiya paisa dincha. khoi kun aru jat ko chad parwa ma sarkar le yesto arthik sahayog gareko chha? pratyek mahina euta na euta bida kathmadnu lai matra hunchha, bibhinna jatra ko nam ma. yeslai pani sarkar ko pakshapati nirnaya bhanna  milla ki namilla ??

you go to doti, achham, bajura, you will find lot of khas people who do not understand modern nepali language. So, Nepali, though originated from khas kura, is a common language of all of us. Yo rastra bhasa ho ra newari, tatha anya nepal ma boline bhasa lai sarkar le rastriya bhasa ko darja deko chha. Timi lai kasaile jabarjasti nepali bhasa sika, padh bhaneko chha ra? napadh na bhai halchha ni. Nepali bhasa ta khas le jabarjasti padhan laecha timilai english chai kasle padhana layo ni? ki kuire aayera padh natra mardinchu bhanyo???

Take home msg bro lai: timro jasto andho jatiyata ra afno kamjori ko dosh aru lai laune pravriti le desh ma jatiya yudh ko beej ropchha...........jun kasaiko lagi pani bhalo hune chaina !!!!

THIS IS MY LAST COMMENT. I M OUT OF THIS CRAP.

you have an answer for everyone dont you chanatarkari?  now i feel you are getting to a point where everyone that doesnt agree with you becomes ignorant. you have madeup your mind and put everyone under the same microscope. now to your comment for me...........me and my wife met here in the US and decided to marry with or without our family's consent , it was love and later our family agreed, it wasnt smooth sailing, My Family was very accepting of our marriage, more than hers ( there were some spoilers) but my immediate family was ok, my mom is Rana(Thakuri), and my Dad is Thapa(Chettri). In Nepali caste system (whis is bullcrap), we are pretty high up there yet my wifes(Manandhar) newar relatives, (who are nice now) treated us like low caste in their culture. AS time went by things got better. Now there is no tension at all after 5 yrs.........

I grew up in a very mixed town in Kathmandu, Our neighbors were all mixed, chettri, Newars, baun, gurung, etc hence my friends were all from different castes yet we never made that an issue. Even now at 30 yrs old...I never feel caste is not important, we should all be one caste that is NEPALI,

you can go down our history and present culture and find enough reasons to start an ethnic civilwar in Nepal OR move ahead and build a peaceful Nepal by learning form our mistakes. We are all common Nepali people  trying to make a living, whether it be Baun, chettri or Newar, all we want is the best for our family, it wont come with bloodshed and violence because brother, dont think an yother caste is weak and wont pickup weapons against each other and that will happen if one caste attacks another caste and kill loved ones...then there will be no turning back.
 
Who is better that who, who is high caste? who is low? in this day and age if we keep pondering on those issues and dig the past, we are just inviting more trouble. People who feel they need to justify themselves by putting others down are cowards and hypocrites, because they do others what they dont others to do to them.

GorkheyCowboy,

I understand what you are saying...there is no way to come to an understanding with this guy....I am just trying to understand what my role is as a bahun (KHAS per his definition) to make sure HIS language and Culture is preserved and promoted.

You are right...i did not think of all the government expenses for all the Newar Jatras ( ironically i never thought of them as NEWAR JATRAS till this day ) i thought they would be categorized as Nepali Jatras...You are right Newars do get lavish allocation from government for cultural expenses.

Sidester/Gorkhe!

What newars of CT kinds failed to acknowledge is that how PN Shah respected Newar culture even after conquering valley. PN shah continued kumari jatra/indra jatra/ machindra jatra and every little festivals of valley. While he could have completely imposed his own culture. Mostimportantly, the very Shah dynasty made indra jatra a kind of national festival. I know many orthodox newars are completely blind in accepting the fact. Intrestingly, when I was last time in nepal, large fraction of newari community were so upset about not  having king in the jatra and were protesting against president coming to indra jatra. Remember they were not rajabadi group or affilliated to any groups. So,there is a kind of dichotomy within us. Remember, what we newar always wanted and  when we was in little powers / when maoist came, we asked to abolish sanskrit education from schools-how negetive are we ? was not that  stupid move while ourmany of  important documents about our civilization in written in sanskrit. Orthodox stupid newars  want nepal sambhat to be rastriya sambat, if not they  rather want " ishwi sambhat" and want to abolish bikram sambat.- while other ethnic community never demanded such things why we the newars only want this and still claim we are not " sampradaik?" Tamu are happy celebrating tamu loshar, so are tamang, sherpa and other ethnic communities but when it comes to us we like to make it as political as we can, thanks to people like padma ratna and mall k sundar. Do we see flaw in our thinking or not? Let us all ask ourself.

On the other hand I would like to clarfy one thing, it is true newars are getting  funds from government for their jatras, but to blame government or newar community and compare that  with  jatra of other community  is not right thing  nor it is fair, as government took over all the guthi land, so it becomesnow thier responsibility of  to take care of these jatra. so please do not make this as big issue here.  And this is what happens when we go sampradaik, even our right demand will be treated as sampradaik demand,   which will have detrimental impact to our culture in long run and this is where my fear is.

So, again, let us accept and respect the voice of majority, and play constructive role to lift up our culture than blaming others, if we can not do anything without blaming others, then there is a flaw within ourself.

@ Shantipriya

I showed this illustration just to open the eyes of bigotic and blinded people like CT. I do not have any grudge on any jatra and support by government on them. I, though am a chhetri, love culutre and jatras of newars and regard them as nepali culture. People like CT are the impedement on social harmony in nepal.

WTF !!

HA HA HA Bunch of focking clowns....
Why English is international language all over the world? Its just to help communication , being everybody in same page..its same with nepali laguage. There has to be one language to communicate well within a country and u want that to be newari...too late son...and especially channa tarkari piece of shiat..you got plenty of time to think BS ...utilize time being creative rather than being paronoid about a language.

chanaa_tarkaari,

If you had read my earlier posting carefully, I had mentioned "I agree with you every language and culture within Nepal has to be respected and preserved. Rather than bashing a group who has a common language, let's have a healthy discussion what more can be done to preserve languages like Nepal Bhasa, Maithali, Awadhi, Bhijpuri, Kirat and many more that are spoken in Nepal." I was so disappointed to read words like  "khas-only minsdet" and "unitary-khas-domination policy" in the response. After reading all your arguements, I won't be surprised if you come with the sentences like...those earthquake disasters in 1990 and 2045 BS were also caused due to "unitary-khas-domination policy". If something good happens in Nepal, it will be because of Non-Khas people but it something bad happens in Nepal, it will be because of  "khas-only minsdet" and "unitary-khas-domination policy."  With this, I rest my case.

PS: Talking about Mahabir Pun, if you look into his website (http://www.nepalwireless.net), you will be surprised to see a handful of "Khas" poeple helping him with the noble mission.

chanaa_tarkari,

You will also be surprised to know that how governement filled with your so called "khas-only minsdet" have helped in Mahabir dai's mission.

The bottom of the home page explains the effort in more detail: “The team leader gave presentations to member of parliaments, political leaders and government officials telling how Wi-fi technology can be very useful for the people living in the remote areas. As a result the government has brought a new law on Rural and Community ISPs within Nepal reducing the license fee to about USD3 for using VSAT in the rural areas and starting a rural ISP. Originally the license fee was almost USD 5,000. The government has also opened up PC to PC and IP to IP VoIP in September 2007.”  (Source: http://gordoncook.net/wp/?p=234)

Chana ko tarkari banye sable..chana kata ho??

chhoyelaa-bhutun pani banamlaa - just stay tuned.

Shanti priya.

It is very interesting observation from a Newar to note that PNS respected the Newar Culture and thus saved Indra jatra and kumari jatra etc. Thank you. My question to you will be; had he respected the Newar Culture and the people who created this Culture he would not have attacked the valley in the first place. Many a travelers from far and wide came to see and appreciate the renowned Newah culture but this PNS came with a strong desire to conquer, rule and own it. His numerous repeated attacks on the valley is proof to his insatiable and marauding desire to conquer the people and rule over them and own all the riches and try his best to rename the culture in his name, which unfortunately persists to this very day. He went further after conquering Nepal to conquer the rest of other regions and people to rule and not to respect. Trying to rename Newar culture as “NEPALI” culture is a dream that will never come true however hard one “bangs his head on the wall” As for “NEPALI” Culture. What is “NEPALI” culture after all?. What culture is that can anyone define it for me. I have no idea. Who came up with this absurd name and where did it come from?. Tell me what is “Nepali” culture, its origin, history or basis and what it is all about? I haven’t read anything like that in history.

If Santi priya sees the whole gamut of issues raised by the Newar community as stupid and “sampradahik” then one reading the argument can only surmise that there is something wrong in the upbringing of this person. Either it is because of a deep and constant association and reading of the orthodoxy khas media, writers, or the panchayati educational system, or some radical parental influence. Such flawed and skewed understanding of the reality is quiet debilitating as if living in another parallel world. Sampradayak are those who in the name of building a new democracy try to resort to old orthodoxy by imposing their will upon the rest, imposing one language policy by, specially the Sampradayak ruling elite, when it is universally acknowledged that the country is multi-national. Sampradayak is the one who think his language alone represent the rest of the languages of this multi-lingual country. My understanding of Democracy is quiet different that the one you harbor. Again about one of your assertions - Democracy is not just about the rule of the majority, but it is also about how you treat the minority in an inclusive and non-divisive way listening to the remaining 49% of the people. Sorry I am quiet disappointed with the Newar in you. You have lot to learn and grow into, and when you do, I bet you will have a different mindset. Just remember this for me. 

My question to you will be; had he respected the Newar Culture and the people who created this Culture he would not have attacked the valley in the first place. Many a travelers from far and wide came to see and appreciate the renowned Newah culture but this PNS came with a strong desire to conquer, rule and own it.

Yesssssss PN Shah should not have attacked, rather he should have let go and should not have tried to make a map of a country which you are citizen of, what a pity!!!. PN Shah is a criminal and J P Malla was brave savior. Rather the way JP Malla surrended, we should have surrended our country to british and india. god damm it  PN Shah it is because you we have this much of  land, else we would have entire India, who knows may be entire england and we would have been celbrating our culture in Delhi palace in stead of  Basantapur..PN Shah you screwed up us big time.... Yes I am banging my head on the wall.

Either it is because of a deep and constant association and reading of the orthodoxy khas media, writers, or the panchayati educational system, or some radical parental influence.

Unfortunately, unlike you I read all kind of news papers, english non english newari non newari khas na khas, and i have all kind of friends. I do not confine myself within own particular caste and boundary when it comes to educating myself. Yesterday I was reading an article about Mangal Raj Joshi, newar scholar-apparently he likes Khas Jhyaure lok geet (see nayapatrika)-see the difference betn educated and non educated moron like you. Yes I went to school in panchayat era, i guess so would your dad no? Your upbringing went bad not mine. I have seen lot more newars and nepal than you. Most importantly, I have  and been with more human beings/ my fellow nepali brothers, it does not matter which caste they belong to, bigot like you would care such things.


Yeahhhh We are not at all sampradaik, we do not want sanskrit because this is barmu language, to hell with our historical documents. Oh yeah we managed to get rid of sanskrit finally, yeah great victory!! I am gonna make hell lot of noise from the terrace" pasapi PN Shah na dukagu sanskrit a yami tesan byone ma" ( friends we no longer need to study sanskrit which was imposed upon us...) great victory against our historic loss with PN Shah.

Yes democracy meaning respecting the majority first- go find each and every literature of it. Majority rules! yes minority should be give a space, but what our minority group wants is to destroy, debunk and disparage each and everything that is associated with majority. Stop the bull crap! I am newar, but I am nepali first and you are newar and nothing else that is the difference.It is you need to grow up brother.  Stop making nonsense arguments it is really cracking me up!

Daboo,
 "My question to you will be; had he respected the Newar Culture and the people who created this Culture he would not have attacked the valley in the first place".  LOL 

Just to clarify a bit about this "Nepali " thing and where it came from.

PNS conquer all three principality of the Kathmandu valley and started residing in the valley. Then, from the then country side of the new born state; people start saying "nepal jane" in Nepali or ur or CT dai's word khas kura. So, since the King was living in the Nepal uptyaka, foreigners and citizens alike start calling Nepal to the territory where the King of Nepal conquered. Mind you even till late 19th century, the word Nepal associated with Valley in general for other citizens. Till mid of 19th century, King of Nepal and king of gorkha, bajang, palpa were stil considered to titled whic you can read being used pervasively till the last 5 crowns were thrown out few years back. By late 19th century, the use of word King of Nepal so pervasively used that entire country ruled by King of Nepal was started to known as Nepal. Yeah, you might be wondering why it is not named Gorkha; which might have solved many predicaments of both you and Chana dai as it would have been Gorkhali and Gorkha. The word Nepali came from the notion that Nepali is what king of Nepal speaks.

And, btw, PNS was not from khas region, he was from gandak region which is not a traditional khas region. So I don't know the name of the language even when PNS attacked ktm was named as "khas" or "gorkhali".  Khas region is associated with west side of "Greater Nepal". 

The present day Nepali is fundamentally different than Khas. So, if we change the name of the language from Nepali to Khas; then if tomorrow some another tribe rejected the name khas; then what we the 'nepali' speaker name it ? This is too much of radical thinking to go back and change the name of something which has been changed more than 200 years back. And, it wasn't done by any Royal proclamation or group of bahuns and chettris decided it. Time does many things and it is one of them. Even we do change name of the language now, I am pretty sure there will be some CT2 and daboo2, who wants to call the name of the country Gorkha as you guys (also current revolutionaries) are pointing out Nepal is just associated with the valley. No? So I think before you guys voicing for change of Nepali into Khas, how about voicing changing the name Nepal to Gorkha, Sinjha or whatever you wish; as I think, I was able to explain why language of King of Nepal was called Nepali. If not, please let me know I can explain one more time.

Now, let me go to slightly different context of who are Newars? Newar are to be the indigenous people of the KTM valley. But wait, the modern day culture of the Newars can only be traced back to Jayasthiti malla. What was it before that? 
So by daboo's logic, if Ari Malla loved newar culture; he wouldnt have attacked it. Right? So, according to daboo, the present day newar actually celebrating their culture given by the successors of the king who was there to destroy the Newar's culture. Am I right daboo?
Bottom line, I just put some words to call u a dumbass; who has no idea of what you are talking about. You cant put a single logical statement or cohesive argument but yet you are here to JUDGE others parents and upbringing?

Chana dai,

I guess we can discuss this in person someday. But I do think you have three fundamental flaws:
1. You are twenty years late for many of things you are saying. Yeah, I have read you repeating of Mahendra's one language and band of Nepal Sambhat etc in every few other post. 
2. I don't think sajha is proper plaform for you to come up with these rhetorics. Most of us here in sajha don't remember much before '90 and many grew up in KTM with many many Newar frens with whom we have similar behaviors, hobbies and a bit competition to have better English. Yes, you read correctly I didnt say Nepali. So, your over the top rhetorics for "outsiders" sounds weird to most of us.
3. Third, history is not ur bastion. You have nobel intent, I don't have any doubts about it. 

Mav.

bunch of stoooopid morrroooons

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नई प्रकाशनबाट प्रदान गरिने राष्ट्रिय र अन्तरार्ष्ट्रिय साहित्यिक पुरस्कार सम्बन्धि बिशेष गरि प्रबासमा बसेर

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नइ प्रकाशनबाट अर्को चरणमा प्रदान गरिने राष्ट्रिय र अन्तरार्ष्ट्रिय पुरस्कारहरु एक महिनासम्ममा घोषणा हुने बेहोरा अवगत गराउँछु ।
अन्तरार्ष्ट्रिय पुरस्कारका लागि तल उल्लिखित मापदण्ड अनुसार व्यक्तित्वहरुको सिफारिस गरेर सहयोग पुर्याउन विश्वका विभिन्न ठाउँमा रहनु भएका सबै साथीहरुमा विनम्र अनुरोध गरेको छु ।
१) नइ देरूख अन्तरर्राष्ट्रिय पुरस्कार : अन्तराष्ट्रिय क्षेत्रमा ख्याति कमाएकामध्ये नेपालसँग नजिक भएका एक जना विशिष्ठ विदेशी व्यक्तित्व (नागरिक )लाई हरेक वर्ष प्रदान गरिनेछ । यो पुरस्कार तीन लाख रूपियाँ राशिको रहेको छ । गत वर्ष यो पुरस्कार पाकिस्तानकी विदूषी प्रा.डा. ताहिरा निगत नैयरले पाउनु भएको थियो ।
२) नइ देरूनीख अन्तरर्राष्ट्रिय पुरस्कार : अन्तरार्ष्ट्रिय क्षेत्रमा ख्याति कमाएकामध्ये एक जना विशिष्ठ नेपालीगोर्खाली मूलका विदेशी व्यक्तित्व (नागरिक )लाई हरेक वर्ष प्रदान गरिनेछ । यो पुरस्कार दुई लाख रूपियाँ राशिको रहेको छ । गत वर्ष यो पुरस्कार भारतका विद्वान् प्रा.डा. इन्द्रबहादुर राईले पाउनु भएको थियो ।

नरेन्द्रराज प्रसाई
स‌स्थापक
नइ प्रकाशन

NOW TELL ME
WHY the hell they say Bideshi NEPALI / GORKHALI  byakti but the language is NEPALI

I am 100% sure you moral-less morrons are ashamed of your true identity KHAS. You want to use "NEPALI / GORKHALI".

NOW BARK AGAINST ME. MORRONS.

Shanti Priya,

Even though you seem to be a reasonable young pathaa newar (maybe), your mind is full of “Gobar Ganesh”. Nor India, at any time, nor the world power of the British colonizator cold have passed through the Malaria infested “Char Kosh Jhari” of the terai.
It is because of this also that PNS saved his ass agreeing to the Sagauli Sandhi in 1816. giving away some land in the west and east to the East India company in return to rule over rest of Nepal at will. The gorkhas still harbor the dream of owning “The Greater
Nepal” – what a BS.

Futhermore, you seem to be the perfect product of the Panchayati Naya Siksha endeavor as they intended – a brainwashed to hilt with bahunista Mombo-Jumbo. Well, keep reading more papers and stuff that will make your brain even more washed. If newars were so “sampradayak” why would they respect the Khas language, write stories and poems, write natak and sing songs while the “Liberal” and “Broad- minded” “Non-sampradayak” Khas- Bahun reject and stifle Nepal Bhasa, a language they know but would not speak, culture they envy but would not respect. They boycott and ban Nepal Bhasa thru the government media and the public Service commission where only monoglot (one language speaking) may apply-only those who know Khas- kura. This was very discrimatory and utterly “Sampradayak” The whole world knows about it which you need to learn by reading more pertinent and relevant material than fluf – propaganda you read, and “make-feel–good” tabloid journalism you follow. 

I think you are running out of vocabulary and are resorting to derogatory words like “Moron and bigot” which applies more to yourself than to anybody else. There are much sane Khas-bahuns I have talked to, though one far in between. As for you in whom
newar blood run your mind is still infected with PNS germs Your crap-load of “I’m Nepali-first and then Newar” is stupid at the best that will fizzle out in its essence and rationale and hold no water when India take over Nepal (there are enough sell-outs in the government for this to happen) and become an Indian state, then what? You will have to call yourself an “Indian-first and then Newar”.

Friend, you are NEWAR first and then Nepalese, and so are the rest of the people of Nepal, Tamang first and then Nepalese. Khas-bahun first and then Nepalese, and so on and so forth. Do not be taken away by the Khas propaganda that has created
the “NEPALI” concept for themselves to rule over others. Let’s hear from you as soon as possible.
 

Maverick ju,
Your name is so “maverick” but your explanation of what “NEPALI” is, is downright boring and without much substance. If you talking about anything in the realm of mid and late 19 century then by your own definition ‘Nepali” cannot be used as a spear-heading concept for any Nepalese nationalism or cultural identity. 

Is there anyone else out there who has a grasp of what “NEPALI” culture is or what “NEPALI” language is all about. I am waiting to hear for a good argument. Anyone.?

I think you are right to say that PNS was not a khas. Yes he was not a khas. His ancestral name was Khan a muslim, perhaps. Their name changed to Shah as seen in their bhansavali and we know them as a Hindu “Vishnu ko Avatar” this was all done on the advise of the learned orthodox Brahmin who thrived on the Chetrris. The shah started their rule in pockets of what nowadays we know as Magarat, cheating the Magar of their rule by participating in the annual game of the Magar of choosing their leader. Every year if anyone won in the game of valor he would rule the land for one year. Every year this was the tradition and when this one Shah guy won in this annual event, I think it was Drubya Shah, he did not return the rule back to the Magar people and went on to rule with impunity depriving the magar of its cultural and democratic way of choosing their leader. The Shah era thus began.

As far as the name change of the Khas-kura to Nepali is concerned, it was intentional, deliberate and well thought out in order to rule and dominate the local populace cultural, linguistically and politically. This did not happen by itself. Nothing happen by itself. It was the orthdox Bahun’s brain and Chetrris brawn. Rest is history. Only during the Rana regime that the language know as the “gorkha-Bhasa” was renamed to “Nepali” which was a very recent event. Before there was no such language as the “NEPALI” bhasa.

You seem to be a young and vibrant person of the modern Nepal. I appreciate that you have a very good vibe of what we all Nepalese should all become and strive to become. Until and unless all the spite and grievances of the past, the rule of the despot, and  the conspirators, unlawful occupation of land and properties, right and ownerships of the people is not returned duely and respectfully to it original people mutuality and cordiality nor comaradarie or friendlship will be hard to return. The wrong has to be righted first before we begin on the road of reconciliation and reconstruction of our society people and nation. Humans are the only being with a fantastic capability called the rationale brain and the entire information of its history and culture of this world and life is kept it in.
 

Thukka mulla padeko murkha haru. Ganesh man singh ley bhaneyko thiyo Kathamndu ko janata bheda huun bhanera I think sabai nepali  haru ni bheda bhahi sakeyjasto chha. Kasto yyyat topics ma argue gareko mulla haru.Yeha discuss garney haru atleast +2 sakera bachelor padney haru nai holan sabai jana. Bachelor padney ko buddhi ta yesto chha bichara gau ko aanpaad manchey party ko flag bokera neta ko pachi pachi lagney ko sthiti kasto hola. Yo jaat jaati ko kura ko war ley ni wakka lagi sakyo. 'HOTEL RUWANADA' bhanney movie hera atleast u can get some lesson from that.If u can't do anything don't blame other caste. Brahim, chhhetri, newar, rai , magar , gurung , madhesi etc everybody is reponsible for the situtation of our country. THUKKA MULLA HO TIMI HARU SABAI KO DIMAG MA MANCHEY KO GUUU  BHAREKO CHHA.