MADESH IS NOT THE PROPERTY OF ANY1.......MADESH IS TOO DIVERSE TO BE ACCOMODATED IN ONE STATE......U CANT PUT JANAKPUR AND NEPALGUNJ IN ONE BASKET.........BHAIRAHAWA IN NO WAY CALL THEMSELVES A MADESHI PART BECOS THEIR HEART AND MIND NOT INTO IT......

SO BE PRACTICAL MADHESI GUYS....DONT STRETCH THE STUFF INTO THE THIN WIRE...DEMANDING ALL THIS, U R HELPING THE INTERESTS OF THE REGRESIVE FORCES AND THE SOUTHERN NEIGHBOUR..........NO DOUBT UR DEMANDS SHOULD BE MET BUT NOT AT THE LEVEL OF DIVIDING THE COUNTRY.....

 

 

 

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Which is why I sometime believe Nepalese deserve everything they get.....

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Sitting in the faraway country I cannot do anything but look helplessly . I actually want to do something against this " ONE MADHES ONE PRADESH" thing. and the best I can come up is to support Chure- Bhawar . FINANCIALLY.

What do you think guys? Does anyone know how I can support Chure- Bhawar Ekta Samaj financially?  

dusman....I am with u bro....if u find out let me know......

I am up for anyone who want to protect themselves from those idiots who are relying on fear to make everything go their way.....even if it means with weapon......

Nepali hero 1 and dushman,

Don't u realize THAT'S WHAT EXACTLY these people want u to do ? Play into their hands. They want us to fight among ourselves. The more we fight the more is their job security.

MPRF and Chure Bhawar , Jwala singh and god knows what singh, they want the harmony in our siciety to be destabilized, make it worse as it can be so that they can achieve their political ambition on the ashes of dead and burnt Nepalese of all communities.

Lets promote love and peace brothers. I am from Janakpur, and I am nothing, but at least none of my friends promoted hatred. we tried to make sure at least my neighbourhood lives with the communal harmony that there always was.

It's not much different from hindu muslim conflicts in India, where nothing happens to the leaders and the perpetrators, only its the public who loses. These leaders need to be tried in court for violence, murder, and for promoting communal violence.

As for us, let's not fight violence with violence. Nobody wins there. At least  lets promote peace and love wherever we live.

You may disagree, but see at least we r not fighting and abusing each other here. we all stand on same platform right.

prabhat k.....easier said than done bro....remember this, there is still Pahade being killed in Terai and it may seem light to you but remember thats how hatred forms and right now I am willing to support anyone that takes these bastards down.....

I can't stop you. You are wiser than me. There is nothing light about anyone being killed.

Playing to the political leaders beat isbiggest the reason for the situation of Nepal. These leaders know how to manupulate the public sentiment, thats why they create fractions. Wouldnt it be a lot easier just to let the peace process move on with out these outstanding demand that will break the country into pieces???? Nepal is a tiny country and still our leaders avoid the needs of people all over Nepal, which leaves the void for other politicians to capitalize on the sufering of those leftout communities. If we ask a comon man with a family in Nepal on what he wants ......I garauntee that his answer will be Peace and oppertunity to provide for his family. AND when that is not fulfilled they become affiliated with parties who claim will fight...FIGHT..not work....ITS FIGHT to get what ever  they want by any means that includes killing another person  too. Its sad how these fractions have developed these few yrs in Nepal.  Madhesey and Pahades???? who put these thoughts in the minds of regular hard working father, brother, uncle, mom, sister.??????? Discrimination is what they claim......NOW thats universal problem........I dont have to explain that. BUT trying to cut Nepal into pieces is total Bullsh(it. Such a small country and still?????? These leaders have no shame at all.

I can't stop you. You are wiser than me. There is nothing light about anyone being killed. The point is what can be done to stop that. If u think retaliation is the solution. Go ahead bro.

Absolutely correct MadDogg. There is no excuse to violence. Yes, discrimination is a universal problem, but that's not an excuse. Discrimination is universal, true, even in USA but we can all work to reduce it.

there was a time when blacks couldn't vote. times were dire in S africa as well, apartheid. Things changed, how ? coz they realized there is a way out. What I am saying is an honest appeal to all kinds.

Again I say, there is a handful of people, a handful of crooks leaded by the bigger crooks, who kill people in the name of people they claim they represent. Then they expect us to fight among ourselves, the more we fight the more they will toast.

Nepali hero bro, I ask u to reconsider, but still u chose to do so, I can't do anything but feel helpless.

So Nepali Hero bro.........I would agreee if the money you sent supported the group and bought arms and killed all the leaders who create these fractions and all these good for nothing criminals who get drunk and take money to kill others. BUT WHAT IF YOUR MONY GOES TO THE KILLING OF INNOCENT FAMILIES IN THE MADHESH WHO ARE EATING DINNER TOGETHER, OR ASLEEP AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE KILLINGS BUT ARE TARGETTED BECAUSE OF THEIR SKIN COLOR....................?????you will be giving a cause to these leaders to show how innocent madheseys are being killed and further escalate the hate and war. BRO war is Bad...imagine some poor dad husband brother who will wittness his wife sister mom being raped in front of their eyes before biend tortured and killed in their own home...........THATS THE REALITY OF A CIVIL WAR...............ANGER AND HATRED FUELS IT SO NO MATTER WHO IS INFRONT OF YOU >>>>>>>>YOU WILL KILL. is that what you want??????  instead of trying to stop war you are talking about fueling it. Bro dont try to estinguis fire with gasoline because one death will just bring revenge many death will bring GENOCIDE. and there are many people on both sides who wants this to end.......& on the other handWHO DONT WANT THIS TO END????.....THE LEADERS OF BOTH PARTIES........not the comon man..bro.....PLEASE THINK...dont earn blood in your hands by helping either parties but if you can help the suffering families at both ends........THEY ARE NEPALI TOO. They share our IDENTITY.......TRADITIONS AND CULTURE.....most imp THEY WANT TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE AND DONT WANT TO DIE SOON....................who in the right mind wants to die or kill???

I honestly want to applaud u MadDogg. I mean it. we r fortunate to have people like u. Carry on the good work.

We rather need to arrest those crooks and try them in national/ international court. That's the solution and let's do what we can do make that happen. They r traitors.

 

don't get me wrong prabhat bro.....I am not against any community either.....But trust me anger runs both ways as well as love.....But you have to understand that these idiots won't stop until and unless they have an equal match.....Either through strict laws and punishments or through the barrel of a gun....and its obvious with their choice.....

We should stop treating those killers as a political force. Treat them as criminals. We can make our police stronger. Demand the govt to mobilize as many cops they can in the affected area so that people can feel secure. If there is a strong pressurizing force that we can be if we join hands then govt has to listen, or else we can defame them nationally and internationally.But one armed group against other will be a catastrophe, of epic proportions. That will be a nightmare. I wish u  agree. If not, it's ur decision, but we all love Nepal, and I am saying this thinking about the bigger picture.

Look at me, I don't think that way. I dont support them, but if u carry on with the plan, people who think like me might be killed by bombs and guns who always wanted peace. Look at me and be hopeful. We can do things if we join hands here and pressure the IDIOT GOVT. TO GIVE AS MUCH IMPORTANCE TO THE SECURITY FOR THE PEOPLE AS THEY R GIVING TO FIND A NON EXISTENT PRESIDENT.

These leaders are shame of the nation.

 

We should stop treating those killers as a political force. Treat them as criminals. We can make our police stronger. Demand the govt to mobilize as many cops they can in the affected area so that people can feel secure. If there is a strong pressurizing force that we can be if we join hands then govt has to listen, or else we can defame them nationally and internationally.But one armed group against other will be a catastrophe, of epic proportions. That will be a nightmare. I wish u  agree. If not, it's ur decision, but we all love Nepal, and I am saying this thinking about the bigger picture.

Look at me, I don't think that way. I dont support them, but if u carry on with the plan, people who think like me might be killed by bombs and guns who always wanted peace. Look at me and be hopeful. We can do things if we join hands here and pressure the IDIOT GOVT. TO GIVE AS MUCH IMPORTANCE TO THE SECURITY FOR THE PEOPLE AS THEY R GIVING TO FIND A NON EXISTENT PRESIDENT.

These leaders are shame of the nation.

 

Prabhat and Maddog ,

Respect for your good  intentions, But as someone else has already pointed out " being philosophical wise is very easy " and so is being political correct. But lets put these things apart and try to be reasonable and practical. Our motherland is on the verge of worst ciris in the history, and I dont want to sit comfy but want to do something. I dont want Nepal to be divided into bits and pieces, I want to held my head high up when answering to the next generation of Nepalese. I feel like I have to answer to my sons and daughters questions, when one fine day they will ask me if I did anything to stop the division of the country.

I want to support ChureBhawar , as I can see it as the only force which firmly stand against dividing the country into Madhesh and non-madhesh. Just imagine if Chure-Bhawar , or for that matter Tharuwan supporters had as many seats (votes) as any other pro-madhesh party, then there wont be a talk of this "One Madhesh One Pradesh" thing.  Chure-Bhawar movement was initiated as a protest to Pahade-bashing in Terai. Its the "opposite reaction" for the action of pro-madhesis activities. So I dont harbour any doubts about their intentions. They defended their homes and  weak , elderly ,women and children with nothing but latthi and khukuri. I dont believe in the political parties and estabilishment in Kathmandu , that they will defend the soverignity of the nation, they are total sell-outs. I dont either have much faith in the intellectual elites , they are "napunsak", and will always be. So only real alternative is Chure-Bhawar.

Supporting them financially will mean that they will have lots more publicity( they dont even have website, I tried google ) and I am sure there are many who like me feel the urgency to do something will come to know about it and support it.

Its very easy to say " LETS PROMOTE PEACE AND LOVE"  but what kind of Peace and Love you want to promote?   I am tired of this appeasement politics of  Lets not do anything to anger them , god forbid what they will come up next if they are provocated. Its not promoting peace and love , but its called staying passive. There were people who were for this "peace and love" 15 years ago, and you can see the result after killings thousands of brothers and sisters, destroying the country in to the medieval ages, and more over destrying the identity of being nepali, we are not going forward but backwards , on being a totalitarian country.

Country belongs to the next generation of Nepalese, what we can least do is to handover in one piece. and I will do my best , and do whatever is possible and yes that means supporting Chure Bhawar financially --

 

This thread, cesspool of conscious, sub-consious, tacit, direct, subtle and any other form of racism, is exactly what we DONT need in sajha. SO far there are more than 50 postings and not a single one of you guys have put the demands (and their agument or premises). If you dont even know why the demand (and what kind of argument is pushed forward) how can you even comment on such a complicated yet delicated issue? What it has been is, sadly, a thread for bashing and hating whatever u dont agree upon. Traditionally we have been doing this by labeling "dhoti" and "royalist" since public forum were accessible to Nepalese. So Mr. KC, i request you to close this thread.