https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6z3otfzqa0

Awesome video by the Hindu scholars. Thank you Nepali dai for posting. It's a matter of our salvation please ponder upon the creation of God.

bravo, go on kiddo!
@paulsmith and nepaliguy, had there been a copyright law in the times of jesus in ancient israel,there would have beeb no 'the true words of god' book, ie ,your religious book.
the mere fact that your holy scripture  is scared of criticism and conversion to another faith shows the level of intellectual bankrupcy your  faith is made up of.
i consider myself a hindu because i observe my festivals as a part of my culture, i believe in karma and karmaphala. i dont know for sure if there is a god or not(as a science student i be on the no god side) but  even a nastika can be a hindu as it doesnt have a central dogma.i can worship one god or the millions of his manifestations(as is the muslim gods 1000 names) or none at all. i am even very keen to learn the masta tradition of my forefathers(jhankri,bhanger,kuldeuta and so on) ,at least  authentic and doesnt come with arab arrogance and cultural slavery.

Respected Shiva dai:

Do you think Al-Qur'an was plagarized from the Bible than? Prophet Muhammad (upon whom be peace) was an illiterate person. He did not know how to read or write. May i know how can an illiterate person plagarize a book?

I am student of science too. I do not follow anything blindly. If you are claiming yourself Hindu aren't you following the path of your ancestors blindly than?

God says in Qur'an: “So if they dispute with you, say ‘I have submitted my whole self to Allah, and so have those who follow me.’ And say to the People of the Scripture and to the unlearned: ‘Do you also submit yourselves?’ If they do, then they are on right guidance. But if they turn away, your duty is only to convey the Message. And in Allah’s sight are all of His servants.” [Al-Qur'an 3: 20]

“The Messenger’s duty is but to proclaim the Message.” [Al-Qur'an3: 99]

“Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth has been made clear from error. Whoever rejects false worship and believes in God has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that never breaks. And God hears and knows all things.” [Al-Qur'an 2:256]
 

God says in Qur'an: “If it had been your Lord’s will, all of the people on Earth would have believed. Would you then compel the people so to have them believe?” [Al-Qur'an 10:99]


Sorry if i offended anyone, as i have no right to hurt or offend anyone. But to blindly follow anyone is not good i think.

 

Baaa Baaa Black sheep.. lol !! Keep quoting them verses like a parrot, it will definately get you those 72 virgins. lol !!  http://wikiislam.net/wiki/72_Virgins  

Nepaliguy1982 & Paulsmith, What's up with this coloring (red and green) of texts you put here. Does that make the texts supernormal? Also, too much of copying and pasting and too much of videos. STOP this nonsense.

Looks like both Nepaliguy1982 and Paulsmith are the same guy. Probably just trolls.

Mitra Nepaliguy 1982:

Hazur le derai ramro point leyera aunu bhayo. Yo sajha ma Bhagwan ko kura garne manche ko kehi kadar chhaina. Yeha ta fatoos posts haru le prathmikta pauchhan tara spritual kura haru le paudainan.
I have had opportunity to read translated version of Upanishads, the Bible and the Qur'an and i was amazed to find the similarities between The Upanishads, the Bible and the Qur'an.

All talk about monotheism. In Eastern concept, they say Manu and on western concept they say Noah. Same type of flood.

After my little research, i came to conclusion that: Ram, Krishna, Abraham, Moses, Buddha, Zoroaster, Jesus, Muhammad all were rishi's of same Almighty God. In reality, there is only one religion, the religion of God. This one religion is continually evolving, and each particular religious system represents a stage in the evolution of the whole.

The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens. One planet, one human race, one God.

Anyways, please keep up the good work. I am a student of comparative religion too.

Hazur lai bidai ma : Om Shanti Om, peace be with you, AsSalamu Alaikum  (sabai ko mane autai ta ho ni hoina ra hazur)
 
I am looking forward to see this movie though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qmj5mhDwJQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xjv9gfcfrU

More I read these posts more i believe the non existent of the god.

More I read these posts more i believe the non existence of the god.

Let’s start with the oldest text mentioned here,

 Ved

 Almost 80% (my approximation) of Ved talks about life, nature, civilization, society, human behavior etc etc, 20% talks about god and that too not of a god which most ppl perceive. 

 Most probably they were talking about Higgs boson particle, which is present everywhere, which can’t be seen (not yet) can’t not be touched

This particle is responsible for introducing mass to sub atomic particles. There will be no life, no universe, no nothing if there is no mass, and Higgs Boson gives mass to everything. May be they were talking about this mighty particle, which has no structure, no shape. Which is no male, no female, has no colour and yet exists everywhere? This particle fits the definition of the god in ved.

 Now let me talk about each religion

 Hindu-

Some claim it to be oldest (who cares). As it is one of the oldest, it has accumulated many shortcomings through times, introduced by many manipulators who manipulated this religion for personal gain.

 Manipulation is such that ppl started to think book of history (Mahabharata, Ramayana) etc as religious books. These books although contains quite a few good things are not religious books at all. 

Kisna and Ram, they are not god. They are historic figures, played some role during their era, contributed to the society and died, that's all.

 Jews

 Almost as old as Hinduism, their religious books too sounds merely books of history rather than the religious book.

PPl found they can do business using this book, started to introduce manipulation. 

Till date if you are orthodox Jew you don't have to do compulsory military service in Israel, you are tax exempt and you get government funding. And they make many kids, what else you want present day society if you are lazy? Just become a orthodox Jew and you are safe.

 Cunning ppl have made Hindu and Jews religion a commodity which they sale to non suspecting ppl, make profit out of it. 

Most recent example is Asa Ram Bapu and his family in India, they were exploiting the religion. for personal fun.

 Christianity

A derivative religion of Jew, Jesus Christ modified Old Testament and developed New Testament. And the bible written many years after his death added so many fictions about Jesus Christ so that they can sale this to innocent ppl.

Christianity became most powerful religion in the world after 500 years of its coining by 1000 Ad it even tackled and finally successfully bring down the Roman Empire. Power of kings was lesser than the power of Priests at times. It engulfed entire Europe and Europe entered into a dark era. Scientific thoughts were prohibited and punished. 

Giordano Bruno had the audacity to even go beyond Copernicus, and, dared to suggest, that space was boundless and that the sun was and its planets were but one of any number of similar systems: Why?? There even might be other inhabited worlds with rational beings equal or possibly superior to us.

For such blasphemy, Bruno was tried before the Inquisition, condemned and burned at the stake in 1600. Galileo was brought forward in 1633, and, there, in front of his "betters," he was, under the threat of torture and death, forced to his knees to renounce all belief in Copernican theories, and was thereafter sentenced to imprisonment for the remainder of his days.

Entire Europe was suffering from the terror of Christianity. They also ended up colonizing 25% of the world.

Thanks to many brave Europeans, Europe got out of grip of the Christianity and civilization moved dramatically forward. 

Islam,

Watching the video many ppl posted here and reading what Koran says about the god, Islam looks like a derivative religion of Hinduism.

Christian modified Old Testament (of Jews) to create New Testament. Looks like whoever wrote Koran took basic concept of god from Hindu books (apparently Ved, Mahabharat) and modified here and there to create new religion. Koran also shows signs of inputs from old and New Testaments.

Presence of Jewish historical and mythical materials  in the Koran. however there are many error in Koran while mentioning Jews historical accounts that suggests that he received those  information orally, and probably from men who had no great amount of book-learning themselves.

Similarly inclusion of many stories from Christian bible with different details indicated that existence many different version of Christian biblical stories at the time of Mohammad. and he might have received orally one of the popular versions of that time.

Koran sound like a concoct of different religion that is why it is very easy to manipulate. I am sorry to say that Islam is most manipulated religion at present. 

Power hungry Muslims ( they might have seen economic benefit too) Immediately after the death of Mohammad  manipulated about his successor and shia and sunny faction were created. And we all know at present in Iraq there is war going on between two. 

Asad of Syria is supported by Iran (shia) and opposed by Sunni (Saudi Arab).

Similarly there is a rift between shia (majority) and Sunni ( minority but, ruling clan ) in Baharin.

Present day there is a power struggle going on between Shia and Sunni in Islamic world. 

So, having one book (unmodified) did not bring any good to the religion, it suffered the same fate as other religion.

Think about id there is only one website, one television, only one news paper how boring the world be who is in  the power will always try to manipulate the situation in his favor.

If Koran is a science, Think about if there is only on book that describes physics, chemistry, biology math etc ect. How boring would it be? Not possible isn't it.

Always different thought/multiple personalities are required to move the civilization forward. We already know how One Bible domination froze the development. So one book in its original form is not a matter of pride.

A book written thousands of yrs ago can not be used to run the present day society. The book has become obsolete. Its correct place is the museum. Main problem of the Islam is this. Islam is one of the most manipulated religion and Muslims are suffering a lot because of this.

Regarding the Koran raveled to Mohammed by god is totally laughing stuff. 

The concept of god which existed in Hinduism almost 2000 yrs before Mohammed and historical accounts which Bible and Talmud already describes need not be revealed. Even if he was illiterate he could receive this orally from a person who knows it fully or partially. You don't need to be illiterate to listen to some one. In Neplai villages lots of Illiterate Nepali ppl know about Mahabharat and Ramayan even though they can’t read and write.

Now it is established that earth revolves round the sun. It was confirmed in 16th century. Now some illiterate guy from Nepal come forward and says, god revealed me that earth revolves round the sun not otherwise as mentioned in the bible, how laughable will that be. 

Any educated person can convince an illiterate villager that earth revolves round the sun and he could choose to believe that. It is that simple. He doesn’t need to be a student of science to believe that. 

All so called god/prophet etc etc, be it be Kisna/Mohammed/Jesus or whoever always say only me, no one else. This concept perfectly fits the definition of a Dictator in present day.

And saying that "it is the matter of salvation think carefully" is the scare tactics used by cunning ppl to lure the innocent. If we human need salvation, we need salvation from god and religion not salvation through religion and god.

And god created humans to pray him ?? What a lame reason. If someone creates something for his praise then he is a false god. He must be a namud "chakadi” seeker.

Or may be god can not survive without someone praying him? In that case he needs human, human don't need him. Then again he is a false god.

I am not touching  Budhhism here because Budhha never said he is a god. And he only spread his teachings not in the name of god/gods son/ etc etc

Sorry double posting, tried to delete first one, but not possible

Respected ----:

I never said Islam is a new religion. It is very similar to Santana Dharma, Zorastrian, Judaism and Christianity. All these religions mentioned here condemns idol worship in it's original form.

I agree with you Ram, Krishna were just good human beings not God. Why would the Creator of this universe would come to this earth and eat, use rest room, go to market? He is the one who created everything to begin with. Let's go to the basic, definition of God: "To be free from human limitation."

We know Ram, Krishna, Sai Baba had every human limitation than how can they be God?Can we imagine God using rest room, lol?

Who would control the universe if he takes a break to take a nap or sleep?
God is not human being. He is unique and absolute. There is none comparable to him.

Sanskrit: "Na tasya Pratima asti"
English: "There is no image of Him." (Yajurveda 32:3)

I also agree with you that i think there were many rishis, prophets of God before prophet Muhammad. Islam summarized Vedas in one word: "There is no diety worthy of worship except one true God and Muhammad is His final messanger." The oldest of all the vedas is Rigveda. It is also the one considered most sacred by the Hindus. The Rigveda states in Book 1, hymn 164 and verse 46:
"Sages (learned Priests) call one God by many names." (Rigveda 1:164:46)

Thank you Newguyintown for liking my postings. I was born in a Hindu family. I am also a student of comparative religions. I just want our Nepali brothers and sisters to read whatever scripture they may like so they may know the truth. Indeed i agree with you "God is one."

That has been the message of the most scriptures.

"YOU are the one CREATOR of this complete cosmic manifestion, of the moving and the nonmoving. YOU are its worshipable chief, the supreme spiritual master. No one is equal to YOU, nor can anyone be one with YOU. How then could there be anyone greater than YOU in all the worlds, O LORD of immeasurable power?" (Bhagawad Gita 11:43)

I was at this time of living, like so many Atheists or Anti-theists, in a whirl of contradictions. I maintained that God did not exist. I was also very angry with God for not existing. I was equally angry with Him for creating a world.
In the end, i thanked God for creating us and guiding me to the right path. 

The worst moment for the atheist is when he is really thankful, and has nobody to thank :)

"Lead us to the good path and remove the sin that makes us stray and wander." (Yajurveda 40:16)

Guide to the right path (Qur'an 1)

Paul Smith,"The worst moment for the atheist is when he is really thankful, and has nobody to thank :)"

Nepaliguy1982/ paulsmith/newguyintown/Again, here they comes talking about worshipping and praying stones and Idol.  It is your right not to believe in those rituals those establishments, but again at the same time you are trying to preach here in Sajha about some particular religion that has strange ritual of going around 7 times in strange fashion. You know what I am talking about, clue - black stone.  You guys are still following medieval times book. You have posted several   interesting  youtube video here in this thread, I even watched the one that you posted of Bible Critic. Again what is he? – a critic. Of what? -  Bible ( Did you check what he has to say about your Islam?) . Likewise there are many critic of many  religion, in fact in Hinduism I can be a total atheist but be still regarded as Hindu. However I like Buddhism because it does not preach about worshiping, but to discipline your mind and body.  Why cant you and your likes just let other people live with what they believe in? What is bothering you?  Why you believe that somebody is going to go in heaven by converting if not killing? If some people likes to eat spaghetti and mo-mo  or rice and curry  you cannot force them to eat biryani and muglai – oops, I am a vegetarian. Now do I have to pay Jizya (mentioned somewhere in your holy book?) to remain vegetarian?  Religion is manmade and manipulated by time and place but I am not denying the existence of that supreme power that created the entire universe and watching us from the Edge of the Universe.

Also please do everybody a favor by not copy and paste, people here in sajha are smarter then that. 

Nepaliguy1982/ paulsmith/newguyintown/Again, answer me some points
1)what do u say about the way that mohamad dude handled a 6 yrs old aiesha  after marrying her?
2)what do u say abt the way mohamad raped the wife of his adopted son?
39how were the 3 tribes of medina decieved to truce and then killed one by one after entering the city?explain?
4)if all religions are the same and worship the same god ,why du u stone peoples to death (even today) for changing the faith?
5)why do u always insist on telling koran the final word of god though it was written at the time of uthman ,one of the khalifs after muhamads death??
6)why did muhamad put the phrase 'and muhamad is his last messenger' in the kalmaah? dont you smell the thirst for authority and some foul game?if there could be many before him ,why not after him?
7)what was the status of dhimmis(christians and jews ) in muslim lands till now if they wordhip the same god?u guys stole the whole philosophy and story from the and they are forbidden to build new churches, ride on horses,bear arms and lots more rules.
8)why is it so that a religion which u say preaches peace always talks of kiling the others?ß what is the option for a non.muslim according to your pliagiarism book of yours?death or coversion right??
9)why do you worship the kaaba, the prophet, the book ali,husein(the shias)?well u dont use abeer and tika but  adoring and respecting  someone to insanity and total  devotion is actually worshipping ,right? so you are polythiests too!!!
10)i am a hindu, i eat bef, dont wear my janai,give a sht abt jaat bhat, have slept with various women(including a turkish muslim girl;yupp she is unmarried ;u would love to stone her to death right?? ),i ve been to mandirs and worshipped stone figures  only as a continuation of the tradition  and i still feel i am  a hindu , becoz its the law of karma and 'basudaiva kutumbakam' that makes me a hindu.can you choose stuffs that are rational and throw stuffs that are crazy from you gods own words as i do??
i have still some  questions for you but first answer these.AND PLZ NO MORE COPY PASTE FROM SOME TERRORIST SITE;TRY USING YOUR OWN BRAIN.
SARVE BHAWANTU SUKHINA

1. Einstein developed theory of relativity, he has written many papers about it. But Einstein is dead, He is no longer available for us to explain the theory of relativity.

Nepaliguy1982/ paulsmith/newguyintown,dude questions waitng to be answered. kasta garchhau ki mathika question ko answer dine?