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Basically all the netas are bad, corrupted, and we as juntas are to be blamed for. Because of lack of awareness of  the people they took advantage perfect example, maoist and current condition. Maoist had no plans for new nepal , it just that they made some agreement with india so they are doing according to the aggrement. The people still believe on those netas and parties which makes us fool everyday and enjoy thier new life luxury life. I don't blame gayendra because he did nothing wrong, and i don't believe he was involved in Rajdarbar hatya kanda. I beileve all those netas played a game and i believe they are the ones who are involved. So all if we need new nepal we need to open our eyes and stop supporting those netas  from any political parties( Congress, UML, Maoist, you name it. i already saw enough of thier new nepal and intension!!!!

Nice discussion guys. I agree with Caco here a lot. It is important to educate ourselves with both sides of the issue.

We've established the fact that netas are all corrupt (probably not all of them) but most are!

What is not fathomable to me is where do we get this blind support for the ex-King though? Under what conviction, what qualifications, what authority is he going to lead us? The fact that he was a King ? Then King might have done nothing wrong and I strongly believe he was not behind the Palace Massacre. But if those two latter points were his good deeds that warrants him to be OUR leader, I rest appalled at our intellectual destitute!

Meaningless talk in 21st century, other coutries are almost 1000 years ahead of us, educated people are leaving country, now we need King rule again. King had ruled us for generation and generations. Common guys, don't call another criminal.

Grg,

I take none of the above.  I have yet to see a leader in Nepal I can say is looking out for Nepali people.  Gyaney sat on his ass and did nothing untill he was uprooted.  Now these so called netas(Congress & Communist regardless of what faction.. I see no difference) are taking turns  to fill their pockets & making sure that no one else tries to take their Kursii.  Laat khaney bela paryoo tyo Murkha Nepali haru. Including those morons who were in front of UN couple of years ago chanting Gyaney chor desh chwood. THEREFORE I CHOOSE NONE OF THE ABOVE.

Well everybody has their rights to have their own opinion their own choice and freedom of speech. Let's be truthful at least for one time; Why you don't support Monarchy why you hate the King?!! Is it just because of your personal reasons; is it that he looks kind of ugly, that he don't have that nice calm face like King Birendra!! Is it that you feel ashamed considering yourself educated high tech new age modern guy and you don't give a shit about this outdated system!! or is it that "Sahariya Gaule"  stereotype mentality  feeling proud and superior saying I hate Gyane and Parase!! Or is it your belief in Congress and Communist Ideologies that will do justice to our country!! or is it that the kings ruled for many years and they just spent their life in lavish!!
In regards to this as you can see how our leaders and their even minor aide-de-camp living their lives. on the other hand you would have done the same too if you were a king then. you & me everybody would have done the same. We all are human beings. I want to ask: who don't want to live like a king, who don't want to live like a Rock Star, Who doesn't want to be their own boss!! It is disgraceful and its not right that you envy or hate the other people who has better life than yours, who drive nicer car than yours, who make more money than yours, there are others too who is living worse life than yours!! We have to understand they got those things becoz they wanted like that and work hard for it, or simply being lucky!! Its those things that is written or one's fate, all we can do is work towards  to excellence. 
Also unfortunate for the king "Royal Massacrer" happended those moment. Despite those unfateful and unfavourful fact the king still has strong supporters nationwide. I'm talking about those those kind of supporters 'silent supporters' unlike other political parties who let people hit the streets (picnic) vandalising and creating chaos to show off their "JANASHAKTI".

Personally I don't hate these leaders, after all we all came from the same soil, infact I don't hate nobody nothing. I'm just disgust with their destructive craps, insanity, immorality and insensitiveness. I would have different perspective if they have been sensitive and liable enough to the country and its people or at least if they can contribute even 1% of whatever they making towards the development or to any needy people. I wanna ask Are you keeping blind eye on them just becoz you simply hate KING???!!! We don't need them at all we don't need their craps to prosper our nation.

If you hate Paras, I have some few examples of other Paras. As we all know people's personality depends on the circumstances they are grown up or brought up. There used to one guy local pasale ko choro he was a spoiled brat with decent money in his pocket all the time. He was kind of ruthless picking up fight & mistreating local girls, he used to go to dance restaurant almost every night & throw money towards girls, if some girl don't wanna come to his table then hell break loose. Local police won't do nothing to him coz he used to give them money or some free stuff from pasal. Another there used to local gunda who was Police DSP or Inspector ko spoiled brat. Hitting local gym wearing sando showing off his arm. Fighting with other gunda (another leader's spoiled brat) from another tole. Drink tea or snacks or cigarettes for free from local pasal. Bichara police can't/won't do nothing either just bcoz of their father's reputation. One of the son of reputed businessman leaving the room because he didn't like to wait and stay in line to get US visa.... I don't mean to justify the crimes people make regardless of their brought up circumstances leads immune to justice. I see Paras face almost everywhere in every Leaders just name a few Sujata Koirala.. Prachanda himself & his Son..etc etc..!!

Nepalese people; We are unique and beautiful people. We are happy easy going gallant brave people. We can achieve so much provided opportunity. Nepalese people are born talented born artistic we can excellence in any field. We can beat any Indian or Chinese IT guy as well as in sports or music. People with so much hunger so much drive do you think these leaders are heading us to right direction are they doing justice to its own people, people like us you & me??? Well I don't know about you guys but not for me!!!
There are some stupid well educated people too who are insesitive lacking common sense and absence of enough adequate behavior considered civilised and educated. Behavioral Human senses you can't find them in books!! Perhaps may be its bcoz they are overwhelmed with their achievement having their degrees and work for corporate offices making almost 100k or over, Just like Mr. Bijaya Kumar picking up his cell phone while hosting a talk show!! sometime intelligence leads to superficial supremacy!!

Nepal; As far as I'm sure Bishal Bazar and Suraj Arcade business boomed bcoz of the Indian Customers to buy Jeans and Imported Goods. Indian's were not all allowed to wear Jeans, and Import foreign goods, but I'm not sure about Casinos and Gambling. Indian Customers used to flock to Nepal to buy these foreign goods jeans and to Casinos. Nepalese were not allowed to Casinos its not bcoz they can't spend just bcoz the don't want to take money from their own people and they don't want to see their own fellows lose. I'm trying to say even in India there was Democracy but no Freedom and Democracy within, But in Nepal there were no Democracy but there was Freedom Liberty and Democracy within. which Nepal always has been...

How many of you support this gonna be new Rasist Constitution..... since people are already divided among these nonsense political views.... do you think we are heading forward instead we are heading backward heading to destruction....

A new Nepal; Corporate Nepal. Nepal is surrounded by 21st century economic giants neighbours India and China. We can rip a whole loads of benefit from them. For that we don't even need Bihar Imorted Democracy nor North/South Imported "Ism" to influence or impress them. We can achieve a lot just being a Neutral State without taking either sides losing our ground our values. For that we don't need to transform to somebody else and destory ourself. We just need Nepalism a stable nation. There....... India always been interested in Nepal, China always has helping hands, The US being India allies and its interest in China has always involved  in Nepal due our close proximity to China, EU is always and already there. We are missing this great opportunity to transform Nepal into a prosperous nation. We can trasform Nepal into Corporate Nation letting these big guns play major roles. We don't need to beg for donations or any aid. We just can demand them, let India invest in hydropower, let China build modern age infrastructures, roadways highways so that there won't be any "Sahariyas and Gaule" anymore, demand US and EU to bring hi-tech Industries citing cheap labours. They won't mind helping us they will do it happily and easily as long as we let them do their stuffs and  their interests are met, they are not gonna care what kind of system we have.
If we took a right path those days are not far that every Nepali citizen can go and roam (as a tourist) to any country without even requiring a visa.
For that we don't need multi heads fighting like dogs trying to get a piece what other dog is eating. We just need one visionary head. 
I don't see none with that caliber withing our existing leaders. Right candidate is the King who can bring stability to the nation who can achieve this goal. Who would love his motherland other than king himself, there's no chance he will betray his own country and its people... or wait for someone to born with a magic wand.
Dear king haters big guns I guess you guys can wait for their dear leaders to have sudden self conscious and transform themself trying to end this uncertain transitional period until they make enough for their 7 pusta..8 pusta......10 pusta or indefinate pusta.....
Pease don't let hate grow....
Just my two cents.....
Also enjoy the song....

 

Bathroomcoffee that is an escapist mentality when you say in bold that you choose none of the above.

You need to get real and practical because in reality, you have to accept one party as the party in power whether you like it or not. Which one would you rather have the maoist, the congress or the king. You are not binding yourself to anything by answering it truthfully. You have to realistic and not act like someone who's above everything pretending that if you choose nothing, there will be noone ruling Nepal.

Escapist mentality ? lol !!  I am not escaping from anything dood !!  I think I am real and practical. There is no such thing as HAVE TO in this world.  There is always a choice.  Just don't want to pick another loser to fail the country.  Everyone that came through the pipeline have not been any different from the one before.  If you want to stagnate the country's growth and developement then keep chosing the same old same old and we as a country will never progress. 
You need to think outside the box and not follow the herd.

Bathroom lets get real and not talk like stubborn 5 yr old kids.

You have a destination in mind which is very far away, but at the starting point you have 3 different choices of road that you can follow, and you have to choose one of them to move forward.

You just have to bit the bullet and make a choice otherwise you will never move forward and the current will take you in the direction of the movement making you a bheda.

Lets get real ?  You are the one who seems to be infected with a Zombie disease.  Nepal as a country has been poisoned by your three elements for past 2 decades.  And Grg wants to keep force feeding the same crap with no progress.  Just because you want to be a bheda does not means everyone else does MR GRG. lol !!

Well everybody has rights to their own opinion their own choice and freedom of speech. Let's be truthful at least for one time; Why you don't support Monarchy why you hate the King?!! Is it just because of your personal reasons; is it that he looks kind of ugly, that he don't have that nice calm face like King Birendra!! Is it that you feel ashamed considering yourself educated high tech new age modern guy and you don't give a shit about this outdated system!! or is it that "Sahariya Gaule"  stereotype mentality  feeling proud and superior saying I hate Gyane and Parase!! Or is it your belief in Congress and Communist Ideologies that will do justice to our country!! or is it that the kings ruled for many years and they just spent their life in lavish!!
In regards to this as you can see how our leaders and their even minor aide-de-camp living their lives. on the other hand you would have done the same too if you were a king then. you & me everybody would have done the same. We all are human beings. I want to ask: who don't want to live like a king, who don't want to live like a Rock Star, Who doesn't want to be their own boss!! It is disgraceful and its not right that you envy or hate the other people who has better life than yours, who drive nicer car than yours, who make more money than yours, there are others too who is living worse life than yours!! We have to understand they got those things becoz they wanted like that and work hard for it, or simply being lucky!! Its those things that is written or one's fate, all we can do is work towards  to excellence. 
Also unfortunate for the king "Royal Massacrer" happended those moment. Despite those unfateful and unfavourful fact the king still has strong supporters nationwide. I'm talking about those those kind of supporters 'silent supporters' unlike other political parties who let people hit the streets (picnic) vandalising and creating chaos to show off their "JANASHAKTI".

Personally I don't hate these leaders, after all we all came from the same soil, infact I don't hate nobody nothing. I'm just disgust with their destructive insanity, immorality and insensitiveness. I would have different perspective if they have been sensitive and liable enough to the country and its people or at least if they can contribute even 1% of whatever they make towards the development or to any needy people. I wanna ask Are you keeping blind eye on them just becoz you simply hate KING???!!! We don't need them at all to prosper our nation.

If you hate Paras, I have some few examples of other Paras. As we all know people's personality depends on the circumstances they are grown up or brought up. There used to one guy local pasale ko choro he was a spoiled brat with decent money in his pocket all the time. He was kind of ruthless picking up fight & mistreating local girls, he used to go to dance restaurant almost every night & throw money towards girls, if some girl don't wanna come to his table then hell break loose. Local police won't do nothing to him coz he used to give them money or some free stuff from pasal. Another there used to local gunda who was Police DSP or Inspector ko spoiled brat. Hitting local gym wearing sando showing off his arm. Fighting with other gunda (another leader's spoiled brat) from another tole. Drink tea or snacks or cigarettes for free from local pasal. Bichara police can't/won't do nothing either just bcoz of their father's reputation. One of the son of reputed businessman leaving the room because he didn't like to wait and stay in line to get US visa.... I don't mean to justify the crimes people make regardless of their brought up circumstances leads immune to justice. I see Paras face almost everywhere in every Leaders just name a few Sujata Koirala.. Prachanda himself & his Son..etc etc..!!

Nepalese people; We are unique and beautiful people. We are happy easy going gallant brave people. We can achieve so much provided opportunity. Nepalese people are born talented born artistic we can excellence in any field. We can beat any Indian or Chinese IT guy as well as in sports or music. People with so much hunger so much drive do you think these leaders are heading us to right direction are they doing justice to its own people, people like us you & me??? Well I don't know about you guys but not for me!!!
There are some stupid well educated people too who are insesitive lacking common sense and absence of enough adequate behavior considered civilised and educated. Behavioral Human senses you can't find them in books!! Perhaps may be its bcoz they are overwhelmed with their achievement having their degrees and work for corporate offices making almost 100k or over, Just like Mr. Bijaya Kumar picking up his cell phone while hosting a talk show!! sometime intelligence leads to superficial supremacy!!

Nepal; As far as I'm sure Bishal Bazar and Suraj Arcade business boomed bcoz of the Indian Customers to buy Jeans and Imported Goods. Indian's were not all allowed to wear Jeans, and Import foreign goods, but I'm not sure about Casinos and Gambling. Indian Customers used to flock to Nepal to buy these foreign goods jeans and to Casinos. Nepalese were not allowed to Casinos its not bcoz they can't spend just bcoz the don't want to take money from their own people and they don't want to see their own fellows lose. I'm trying to say even in India there was Democracy but no Freedom and Democracy within, But in Nepal there were no Democracy but there was Freedom Liberty and Democracy within. which Nepal always has been...

How many of you support this gonna be new Racists Constitution..... since people are already divided among these nonsense political views.... do you think we are heading forward instead we are heading backward heading to destruction....

A new Nepal; Corporate Nepal. Nepal is surrounded by 21st century economic giants neighbours India and China. We can rip a whole loads of benefit from them. For that we don't even need Bihar Imorted Democracy nor North/South Imported "Ism" to influence or impress them. We can achieve a lot just being a Neutral State without taking either sides losing our ground our values. For that we don't need to transform to somebody else and destory ourself. We just need Nepalism a stable nation. There....... India always been interested in Nepal, China always has helping hands, The US being India allies and its interest in China has always involved  in Nepal due our close proximity to China, EU is always and already there. We are missing this great opportunity to transform Nepal into a prosperous nation. We can trasform Nepal into Corporate Nation letting these big guns play major roles. We don't need to beg for donations or any aid. We just can demand them, let India invest in hydropower, let China build modern age infrastructures, roadways highways so that there won't be any "Sahariyas and Gaule" anymore, demand US and EU to bring hi-tech Industries citing cheap labours. They won't mind helping us they will do it happily and easily as long as we let them do their stuffs and  their interests are met, they are not gonna care what kind of system we have.
If we took a right path those days are not far that every Nepali citizen can go and roam (as a tourist) to any country without even requiring a visa.
For that we don't need multi heads fighting like dogs trying to get a piece what other dog is eating. We just need one visionary head. 
I don't see none with that caliber withing our existing leaders. Right candidate is the King who can bring stability to the nation who can achieve this goal. Who would love his motherland other than king himself, there's no chance he will betray his own country and its people... or wait for someone to born with a magic wand.
Dear haters big guns I guess you guys can wait for their dear leaders to have sudden self conscious and transform themself trying to end this uncertain transitional period until they make enough for their 7 pusta..8 pusta......10 pusta or indefinate pusta.....
Pease don't let hate grow....
Just my two cents.....

Nakucha,  No one is saying Gyaney does not love his country.  He just does have the balls to run it.  Or al least that was the result last time he was in charge.  I for one do not want to give him another chance to fail again.  

been there done that ...tried to fk nepali people but i got fked instead...now they want me to fk them again...

Anything you do in life, you have to make a choice between the available options. If you keep wanting something that is not even an option then sorry to say but you do need to get real.

You can compare Nepal politics situation  to a personal dilemma. Let's say your close relative got into an accident and now the doctor comes to you and give you three options

1. Cut off leg to prevent infection
2. Inject with drugs which may work 50/50 but end up with bad side effects
3. Do extensive plastic surgery and transplant organs

The fact is if you love your relative enough you will make the decision that is least bad for the person because those are the only options available. If you don't choose any of the above then someone else will make a decision who may not make the correct decision. You don't have the option to say "All threee of the options suck THEREFORE I CHOOSE NONE OF THE ABOVE."

Same way if you love your country enough then you have to make a decision regarding which of the least evil you will choose so that someone else does not end up choosing the worst evil for you.

yah it's like choosing between a pineapple (king) and a cactus (current politicians), which one would you choose to put up your ass scenario

Grg all the great inventor in this world did not invent things by just following the available options.  They took chances and came up top.  So you want Nepal to be stuck in the same old.. same old.  Then go ahead take your pick and follow the rest of them Bhedas.  No one is stoping you.  I wil abstain from participating.  IN ANY ELECTION IF THERE ARE NO LIKEABLE CANDIDATES USUALLY VOTER TURN OUT IS LOW.  ITS THE SAME THING HERE.  WHAT I HAVE HEARD SO FAR FROM YOU, YOU WANT NEPAL TO BE STUCK IN THE SAME OLD ROTATION OF CORRUPTION, LAWLESSNESS, RECORD UNEMPLOYMENT ETC ETC yOU NEED TO UPROOT THE CURRENT POLITICAL MENTALITY IN NEPAL IF YOU WANT CHANGE.

You are comparing apples to oranges here. Politics is not comparable to an invention where you can get creative about things.  Even during invention, you have to select available paths and design components. Even in electronics you have zeroes and ones and you have to program according to on or off state. There would not be any inventions if you start saying neither Zero or One.

Even in US, you have to choose the lesser of evil from democrats or republicans. Anyways, if people don't have a solution they should stop complaining about problems like bhedas and just suck it up, instead of crying त्यो पनि भएन यो पनि भएन

This thread is going around in loops.

Democracy is about voting for the best available option. Some people may not like any options but if they don't vote for the least evil option, then they have to suck it up when apparently worse options are selected for them by others.

Gyanendra has an option to run and become one of the democratic candidate too. If he is really popular and cares about Nepal and Nepali why don't he form a party and take over.

This nonsense of replacing Democracy with a "dictatorship" needs to stop. Gyanendra and his fanatics need to understand that people are not going to give up Democracy for a dictatorship just becasue there are bad apples in Democracy. Nothing beats democracy. Its like " Nahunu mama bhanda Kano mama nai niko". I WILL TAKE BAD DEMOCRACY OVER NO DEMOCRACY IN ANY DAY. There is always a hope for a change in democracy.

 Due respect to all yours opinion and judgement. I agree Democracy is the best. But it also doesn't mean supporting king is supporting 'Dictatorship'. I'm against tyranny autocracy absolut power... remember UK still has Monarchy....