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dimag kharab
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AlterEgo
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Posted on 05-04-11 8:10
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ManuMakhuMarsya
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Posted on 05-04-11 8:24
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Hello NAS:
1. I appreciate your ideology - you love someone who hates you. You are by heart into Republican principle. You have no idea how much you, an immigrant legally / illegally / asylum / Indian store worker, are hated and considered as a trash by Right Wing extremist.
2. Sometimes I am forced to think that blood does not run in your nerve but urine rather. No offense, I am saying a fact. Take care buddy....
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giordano
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Posted on 05-04-11 8:25
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Everyone has right to contradict this mission, but again I don't buy these conspiracies. the truth is OSAMA is dead and it happened under OBAMA administration.
Don't try to mess with OBAMA or else you'll be next Donald trump who got owned big time at the white house dinner.
The only reason I like OBAMA is he is way better then Bush, Palin, Trump, Romney, Huckabee, Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and all the other conservative, teabaggers and consipiracies theorist put together.
You say conspiracy theory, I say its just another excuse.
This is my opinion. you have yours.
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TM
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Posted on 05-04-11 8:34
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4 May, 2011 2:57PM AEST
Osama's killing raises human rights questions
By Jeannette McMahon
The startling news that United States special forces had found and killed the world's most wanted terrorist, Osama bin Laden, raced around the world in a flash. Spontaneous celebrations broke out in the streets of America, with chanting, flag-waving and singing of patriotic anthems. But now it's been revealed the dead man was unarmed, questions are being asked about whether he should have been captured alive and put on trial.
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nepal_ko_lato
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Posted on 05-04-11 9:25
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If you read the threads from begining to above thread, you can see how Nas bro is changing and still not missing to go after obama.
And ppl like Palin's thought is that if Osama kills people, it is Obama's fault and when Osama was killed and it is again Obama's fault.
Bunch of pathetic ppls.
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TM
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Posted on 05-04-11 9:26
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A couple of questions before I start off:
Am I glad bin Laden is dead? Absolutely, Yes! But could it have been done different that would make US look better in the eyes of the world? A resounding "Yes" again!
Western powers are headed more and more by younger leaders. The downside to that is these green-horns lack the kind of wisdom only older age can bring. Remember Sarah Palin Governor-turned-Reality-Star-turned-Tea-Party-Leader who was almost a heart-beat away from the Presidency. That was a moment a lot of rational people started questioning the merits of a Democracy. Young people like Obama and Palin are individuals who have potential to shape the contemporary World History. Thank to the ill-informed majority of people who can elect these candidates to the most powerful office in the world just based on face value. No wonder Socrates, one of the wisest men who ever lived, had argued that " the only opinion that counts is not that of the majority of people generally, but rather that of the one individual who truly knows. The truth alone deserves to be the basis for decisions about human action, so the only proper apporoach is to engage in the sort of careful moral reasoning by means of which one may hope to reveal it."
Now that bin Laden is killed, Obama does not want to release the photos. The way the Osama case was executed and handled might not have a desired result. First of, there could be terrorist reprisals. Secondly, Obama's election mandate of working with the rest of the world in a harmonious understanding has been quite undermined because of his forceful raid of a compound located inside a non-war zone of a reluctant partner where even the locals honestly opine that Osama should have been taken alive. When you ignore seemingly little guys like those we have seen what can come out of it. Thirdly, for God's sake did Obama already forget that he accepted the Nobel for Peace. I love America but visionary leaders and thinkers like Ron Paul and Ralph Nader get the back seat while media promotes breeds of leaders like Palin, Bush and Obama.
Even George W. Bush did a better job with the handling of Saddam Hussein capture and sentencing saga. It was Christmas Season of 2006 when Saddam was executed. Come January, Bush promptly asked Congress for more Budget funding for Iraq. Osama's international legal right as a human being might have been denied while the world watches. As you can see, leading by example is something getting rarer by the day.
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giordano
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Posted on 05-04-11 9:52
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pichas
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Posted on 05-04-11 10:37
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How does NAS qualify to be a conservative tea-bagger nigger hater. Is NAS a white guy whose family was born here. I hope he came to USA and still a minority . Peace of shit never fails to amaze me with his witty yet stupid views; you my friend follow news too much but clearly can't comprehend it.
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giordano
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Posted on 05-04-11 10:47
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Racist never says he is a racist.
OSAMA never said he is a terroist but he is fighting for freedom on behalf of muslims.
But people knows the truth.
Prachande brainwashed nepalese and own the election but I am sorry my fren, americans are way smarter, u can never brainwashed them and so are the new generation of nepal.
God bless Obama,
God bless USA and God Bless NEPAL
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giordano
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Posted on 05-04-11 11:35
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If you see the CNN poll 73% agrees with President Obama's decision not to release photos of Osama bin Laden's body. I am sorry u come in 27 %.
Deathers are the new birthers
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ManuMakhuMarsya
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Posted on 05-05-11 9:48
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NAS is a painted white guy with tons of illegal acts. He knows how to be funny/foolish and spread rumors that irritate and intimidate the other normal Sajha users. He just wants to see the other’s reaction on his comments. Nothing more than that. That is his right though.
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Stiffler
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Posted on 05-05-11 1:34
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Guys
A little bit of bantering is good, but a constant, non-sensical conspiracy theories is just too irritating.
It's like turning the radio channel to Limbaugh or Savage and every single day they cursing on the president. Whatever decision he makes, they will criticize it. Even a devil gets some thing right, if you strictly follow these propagandist, Obama never gets anything right. C'mon now.
And now, the claim is Osama was already dead? Wow!! So Bush and Chaney were so dumb that they never wanted to take the credit and just rode it along for 8 freaking years?? And they are like, come Obama, you take the credit. You say political season is in? Well, check your data. In 1990/91 US was successful in chasing Iraq from Quwait and Bush senior's popularity rose 2-3 times. But he lost the poll, Obama knows this and if he wanted to really capture it for political benefit, he would have waited 18 more months.
This is getting out of hand people. The problem with conspiracy theory which seem to make facts doubtful, is that they are 10 times more doubtful. Time to move on.
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pichas
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Posted on 05-05-11 1:52
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Hypocrite who abuses others all the time is abused this time ; doesn't make sense whose mouth it's coming from.
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giordano
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Posted on 05-05-11 4:17
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A guy came to me and said " Hey u kow wat? earth is flat and not round". he told me there are people hu beleive in it and there are articles and videos in the net that says earth is flat.
Now do u want me to beleive this shit?
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sidster
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Posted on 05-05-11 5:05
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Nas,
Do you really believe it was Obama that got shot??
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pichas
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Posted on 05-05-11 9:57
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We've got CIA operatives on sajha now sharing information of the war. Well now bin laden is dead, all those intelligence are public information and NAS is disclosing them on behalf of the us congress. Infact NAS should run for president . But wait he's gonna need some birth certificate, but no worries, trump will be on his side..
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sidster
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Posted on 05-05-11 10:12
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Nas,
Yes i meant Osama. I for one is more inclined to believe that Osama never existed. It was a boogie man created by Bush Administration to give justification for its wars. When they dug Saddam out of a rat hole and could not find a 6.4 foot tall muslim in this planet, i was convinced that the guy did not exist.
Now finding Osama and killing him without a photos, not displaying his body, and not telling where his body is dumped is just a ploy to end the war in afganistan and to bring the troops back ( this is my own conspiracy theory not a fact)
Bushed cashed big time on Bin Laden videos...each time he needed something from the congress the video use to come out. Now Obama is cashing big with Osama death. I think the name Bin laden served a good purpose for its creation for US politics.
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Posted on 05-05-11 11:00
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@ Sidster
Ok, this is funny. Correcting yourself at the beginning of the post and making repeated mistake is hillarious. oBama is the president of the United States.
@NAS: Leave the conspiracy theory to the Donald.
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sidster
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Posted on 05-05-11 11:07
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Norton,
Lol....i am sounding more and more like those ignorant FOX news casters....Osama Obama whatever...Thanks for pointing out the typo, i will correct that.
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 05-06-11 8:29
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Nas--> Birther
lol !!!
The Birthers Become 'Deathers'
Josh Dzieza Josh Dzieza Thu May 5, 1:16 am ET
NEW YORK – Birthers who claimed President Obama was not born in the U.S. have moved on to another wild conspiracy theory: that Osama bin Laden was not really killed last Sunday—or was killed to shut him up, and then quickly buried at sea. Josh Dzieza explains. Plus, full coverage of Osama bin Laden's death.
Osama bin Laden's death couldn't have come at a better time for the birthers, those who believe that President Obama was born in Kenya, or Indonesia, or renounced his citizenship, or for various other reasons is ineligible for office. Obama had just held an exasperated press conference in which he released his long-form birth certificate, and chided the nation to get back to more serious work.
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Launching the operation to kill the al Qaeda leader could be taken as an example of just the sort of serious duties lawmakers ought to be busy dealing with. Or, with its hasty ocean burial and lack of photographic evidence, it could be seen as just a bit too convenient.
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That latter is how birther activist, lawyer, and dentist Orly Taitz took the news. "Perfect timing!" Taitz exclaimed on her site. "Our court hearing is scheduled to start in just a few hours. Major networks are supposed to be there with cameras rolling. Suddenly, Obama announces that the body of Osama Bin Ladin [sic] is found and we need to prepare for a possible terrorist act." She cited a rumor that bin Laden had been killed years ago and his corpse kept on ice, ready to be rolled out when a diversion was needed. The theory has been around for years, but promptly popped up again on May 1, when Alex Jones posted it on his site, InfoWars, also noting that it "follows the release of a highly suspicious birth certificate." Soon, people like Taitz and Jones had a name: the deathers.
Andy Martin, who is as close as a movement like the birthers comes to having a founder, says conspiracy peddlers like Taitz and Jones are ridiculous. He wants to redirect them to his new movement, which he prefers be called the doubters.
"You have to ask who he's covering for, if they had interrogated him, what he would have dropped in addition to those hard drives."
"Ironically, Obama has created a new birther movement," says Martin. "He's fanning the fires by giving just enough evidence to cast reasonable doubt." Casting doubt is how Martin describes his role in the birther movement. He says he never claimed Obama was born in Kenya or Indonesia, just that he wanted to see the birth certificate (though he admits he started the Obama-is-a-Muslim meme). "You don't have to fantasize, just say, 'Why not show the original? If there's an original document, why not show it?'" People like Taitz might use his research to pursue their own fantasies, says Martin, but he's always stuck to the facts. "I'm the Joe Friday of the Republican Party," he says. "Obama loved birthers who lied, like Orly Taitz, because you could just laugh at them—but he hated me, because I just kept asking."
Martin says he's been convinced Obama's birth certificate is "probably a valid document," though he still has some questions. Now he's turning his attention to bin Laden's death. On May 3, after flying back from Iowa, where he was campaigning for president, he filed an FOIA request for the "Bin Laden capture/kill archive" in order to "immediately counteract any conspiracy theories." In the request, he warns: "We have learned from the original and continuing firestorm over the missing Obama birth certificate that secrecy leads to public skepticism. Skepticism inevitably leads to corrosion of confidence in government. You ought not to let that same process replicate itself in the case of the termination of bin Laden."
It's that claim—to be out only for the truth—that Martin says makes the doubter movement more powerful than ones that paint fantastic alternative histories. "The reason the birther movement could never be stopped is because I launched it with truth and not lies—I knew there had to be a birth certificate, so why not show it?—it's the same reason the doubter movement won't be stopped." Of course, Obama's birth certificate was shown, though people can always doubt its authenticity. Highly classified documents pertaining to the killing of bin Laden never will be, meaning Martin can question forever. It remains to be seen whether the public will feel as entitled to see such documents as they did the birth certificate.
In keeping with his strategy, Martin declines to say what exactly he expects to find other than "the truth," saying only that what evidence we have raises questions. Why was bin Laden buried at sea? Who gave what orders? Why was he killed and not captured? In the first, he sees an offensive deference to Muslim tradition; in the second, he sees potential evidence of Obama's dithering. But it's the third he really presses. Bin Laden was worth more alive than dead, says Martin: We could have made propaganda of his trial, he says; we could have "paraded him down Pennsylvania Avenue in chains like the Romans."
Instead, Navy SEALs shot him, saying he was resisting—a story Martin points out keeps changing—and a story he finds patently ridiculous, anyway. "An old man with kidney problems? A 10-year-old with karate could have taken him." Instead, Obama ordered him killed, Martin says. Sometimes, Martin implies political motives: Obama didn't want a messy trial, Martin says—"he wanted the bonus without the onus." Other times, Martin implies motives that are vaguely sinister: "You have to ask who he's covering for, if they had interrogated him, what he would have dropped in addition to those hard drives."
But Martin says he is only asking questions, distancing himself from outright conspiracy theories—even as he fans them. It's a fine line that some elected officials walked during the heyday of the birthers—remaining pointedly agnostic, saying they didn't believe the theories, but why not release the certificate just the same. Recently Sen. Lindsey Graham seemed to echo John Boehner's comment that he would "take [Obama] at his word" about being a U.S. citizen, when the South Carolina lawmaker said he wants the president to release photos of bin Laden's body to "prove it beyond a reasonable doubt"—though he said he himself was not a doubter.
No polls have been done to see how many people believe bin Laden was killed, or was already dead, or that there's something amiss in his killing, but theories have been making the rounds on fringe conservative blogs, and Yahoo has reported a spike in searches for "bin Laden not dead" and "bin Laden still alive." Martin says he's been inundated with emails from his birther-days contacts, proposing all sorts of theories, from people he says will eagerly follow him on his new mission.
Martin points out that anyone who directly questions bin Laden's death will have an unwelcome audience right now. "In the euphoria of Osama's death we're overlooking these things in the same way in the euphoria of Obama's inauguration we overlooked the facts around his birth," he says.
He gives it a week, saying nobody asks questions at the funeral—they ask them when the will is read. "I'm building a case now, like with the birthers, and all it will take is for a celebrity like Trump to put a match to it, and—boom!"
Josh Dzieza is a reporter at The Newsweek Daily Beast company.
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