Hey friends and Girlfriends....

do you guys know that, In Colorado, Denver there is a couple who lived in denver for over a 20 years, Shyam And Shanti Shrestha, Be very carefull about them cause I have friends who live in washingtion D.C. now a days, he paid them about $25000.00 for a loan but those basterd never return or paid back my friend money......

Good job. I think people who hunts on others should be brought public like this. So that others who hear will be saved and these people do not deserve the right to privacy.

Dear Amarsingh, i am not dreaming about those people and let me tell you that i dont even know those people.. FYI brother, i am not the one with paper either. I can totally understand you feelings and i know may be you have had hard time with those people but what i am trying to say is that this is not the way you deal with the situation. But i might be wrong too. May be this is the way you deal with such kinda situation.. After all its a free country buddy, do what you can do. No Comments..

i think ppl shud know this. Bump for the post...

rather than just blaming, provide some details too if applicable.. 

OK you pakhey son of a bitch ...if you have a credible source then site it...i don't take empty words from an unknown person like you...if you are correct about these people then warn the FBI or the immigration officers and let the authorities deal with it. If you have balls come to NYC tomorrow, i will tell you how and when we can meet..got it?

Is this the same guy someone posted about their daughter engagement party and was charged to the participants? 

USA auna tini haru ko g....da moldai ayeau ani ahile thula kura.

Amarsingh jee, if you think you know the details post them here, or send me email and I'll post them in a "more proper" way. No offence, my friend, we are both on the same side.

I am utterly confused now. I was under the impression that the couple took money from people promising to apply for their green cards but never did. However, Sadman777 said, "Anyways, the victims finally learned that there were too many
applications in one year, and all of their apps were denied". Does this mean that the couple did in fact apply for the green card for these people through their restaurant? I am not saying that these people aren't greedy, they definitely are but so are the 'victims' who wanted a green card. I have a hard time believing that these greedy 'victims' who wanted to get a green card by fraudulent means didn't know that all this couple could do for them was apply for the green card, the decision to grant it or deny it is upon the government. Did these 'victims' think that the couple would print the green card and give it to them? If this couple had taken money from people promising to apply for green card but hadn't done so then I would be completely outraged but since it sounds like they did apply for the green card I think it's just a matter of being a bit too greedy. Wasn't this couple (who are established in the US and have proper papers) taking a big risk by applying for green card of people who didn't actually work for them? Didn't they have more to lose (considering that they are established in the US) if the government found out that they had applied for fraudulent sponsorship?

Now, I know nothing about this couple except for the stuff Sadam777 wrote, they might be two crooks who are willing to do anything for money but until there is any proof of that, as far as I am concerned, this is a case of greed from both parties. The couple wanted to get as much money as they could by applying for as many green cards as they could and the applicants wanted their piece of the 'American Dream' and were willing to get a green card through fraudulent means. I might change my perception if I knew more about the 'victims'. Did any of the victims not have enough to eat and survive in Nepal so HAD to come to the US for the sake of survival? Did any of the 'victims' have to flee Nepal because the Maoist threatened to kill them? Did they have no where else to go out of fear for their life and HAD to come to the US and HAD to get a green card by any means possible? . Nepal ra Nepali ko jaya hoos!!!

I was enjoying this thread reading immature comments but the last one by sabinepali... proves we do have some sanity left in our community. I personally know of a friend who went thru them thinking he would get a GC quickly but didn't. He didnt play holier-than-thou innocent victim since he knew he was trying to beat the system...but no doubts this couple are doing the wrong thing out of greed. I would say both parties are guilty.

sadly SADMAN is right. ask anyone in Denver, Aurora, Longmont, Boulder or over all in colorado about this scam and they'll tell you the truth. the sad part of people who ended up trusting these people were not stupid, they were desperate to have a better life for themselves and their children, they sacrificed. So SACRIFICE is what they did, they were not stupid. this guy tried to rip me off too, but i didn't fall for it. ask any Nepali in colorado, they'll tell you what they do. Ravi kanwal is a rip off, he was an illegal himself and was practicing law, what a joke. because of relaxed colorado law, people like these are prospering. i strongly ask the victims to come forward and go to FBI, and bust these people. they deserve to get their citizenship stripped and deported. 

Mr. Sadman777,

Who the heck knew that Ravi Kunwal did not have the proper license in Colorado to practice law. If the freaking CO law offices and courts didn't know this, you expect me to believe that the two folks you mention would know. Plus if they were "running a scam" as you call it, don't you think now that Mr. Kunwal's license has been revoked, these folks would have been prosecuted by the law???

Geez, people are so fking gullible and believe everything through the grapevine. No wonder our country can never materialize from the slums of gossip.

Regarding applying for a GC....why don't we start going after all the so call IT consultancy firms as well that pad-up the resumes to get people into the jobs and apply for their cards. I got mine with Cisco, and guess what, they did take money from my paycheck to apply for the GC - you have processing fees, lawyer fees, etc etc....Not Free!!! Living in America you should know that nothing is free :)

Regarding taking money from folks...this is really funny...If people here own a business they will appreciate it....To apply for GC, the company must show a profit and a positive yearly run rate to accomodate the "New Employee".  You have to show that you have been paying taxes for the last 3 years and that you have been making money at your biz and how much you are paying the new employee you want to sponsor (paycheck trail). So yes, I don't blame these folks for taking the money for the fees, to pay the "extra' taxes and to show their biz was generating profit and to PAY these victims as paycheck.

Now, I bet all the so-called "Victims" would have been more that happy and singing praises had they received their GCs. It's not an automatic thing to apply for one and get one as some other poster noted in his post. Are we now going to sue all the American corporations because we didn't receive GC or work visa if we applied with them.

These "Victims" were looking to get a GC the easy way. They didn't get it, now they're mad. WTF!!! Get real folks.

Khaukola: Did you get green card through these couple? I heard they are in restaurant, gas and grocery store business, and you used to work for them and got  GC and Amarshing did not that is the reason he is bashing these couple? 

Hi all. Thank you for taking the posts sanely, and if I may suggest, lets keep this forum more mature and refrain ourselves from using profanity.

Dear TheTruthHurts, one who makes the mistake and lies makes the loudest noise. I am sure you are an acquintance of the couple and hence your such attitude towards the article. I have nothing to do with the Shresthas, I am just trying to get justification to some people who feel that they are victimized by them, which I truly believe because, I haven't heard from one person who can give me a discrete reason why I shoudln't believe the victims. And just trying to make sure that from now onwards no one is victimized by them anymore.

Lately I am hearing that their new targets are the Bhutanese Refugees. And yes, I call them victims because despite the lawyer Kanwal's request not to make any further application for Labor Certification and Green Cards, because that would exceed the maximum allowed, the Shrestha couple went to Washington DC and hired another lawyer who was kept under the dark and filed more apps in effort to milk more money from more people. So, please don't try to make them Saints, when in fact they are the pinnacle of greed.

I totally agree to the fact that everyone is right in their own views. For Eva Brown and Nazi Germany Hitler was kind and a fantastic person, but for the rest of the world he was cruel and terrible. Same thing, I am sure the couple are nice to some people and perhaps a lot too. But, as far as I know there are 100 people who knows that they are cruel to 1 person who thinks they are not. And please don't take me wrong. I am not trying to compare the couple with Hitler. I am just giving an example.

When you take money promising someone a service, I think it is ethical enough to make sure that the process is correctly done. Its just a common sense, my friends. But, the couple failed to recognize the fundamentals of business and hence took their greed beyond other people's lives. This is just not acceptable.

Regarding the IT consultancy firms, they don't charge the upfront favor fee. Yes they do pay them less than half of what they were paid by the hirign companies. But, when you are paid $30 per hour by the IT firm, and get employment based GC in three years, that's a pretty cool deal, as oppose to you pay $15,000 upfront, then taxes, then all the lawyer fee and on top the company (in this case the couple's restaurant) makes too many apps such that there is no chance of getting a GC. I think this is indeed wrong and unethical. If they were just as Saints as you make seem like, they should have outright refused to make such promises and services. By the way, the more you argue with what they have done, the more bad is going to be revealed making them look even worse.

We are as real as you think you are and you think the Shrestha couple are, my friend. Please read Dyamn's post, and tell me why I should believe you or the Shrestha couple's arguments when even I know if I ask anyone in Denver and Boulder metro area, they are all going to tell me the same thing. Even a few family members of the the couple say such things about the couple. I don't have to name them, because both Shyam and Shanti Shrestha both know who I am referring to, and most likely you too. And please do not try to make me write their names, because that would only ashame you guys more. Have some dignity to accept your mistakes and come out with an apology, in a nicer attitude. Then most likely the couple will be forgiven. May be!!

Also, I have received one more email of the couple's dark deeds in Colorado, when they took a full advantage of someone's situation. I wll post that soon. You know my friends, when you have children, you are ready to do anything for them. Most people fell for the couple's promises to fill their dreams for their children. People with children and in need of help are the easiest target anyways. How brilliant of them!

Good Luck and see you soon. Keep posting more deeds. If you want to stay anonymous, send me email: sadman777@gmail.com.

Mr Sadman,

Here's the thing. What I was merely trying to say is that people often believe things through the grapevine that is often not true. No wonder hamro desh is known as hallai halla ko desh...

You started your reply by saying " I am sure you are an acquintance of the couple
and hence your such attitude towards the article." Excuse me, I neither know these couple nor care to. Your argument is such that if someone takes an opposing view from yours, that person is a "friend" of the couples. Huh! Ok, going by that same reasoning how can we believe that you yourself are impartial in this matter. Maybe YOU have a personal vendetta against them...maybe even a competing restaurant or whatever the case maybe.

You mentioned: "Lately I am hearing that their new targets are the
Bhutanese Refugees.." - my point exactly...don't base your argument on something that you heard. Even I can start a forum and say that lately I heard that Sadman's new agenda on Sajha is to be a hate mongering critic and have everyone and their uncle have something to say ...Does that mean that it's right or true?

You said: "Shrestha couple went to Washington DC and hired
another lawyer who was kept under the dark and filed more apps in effort
to milk more money from more people." - I am sure you read this on Denverpost.com lol....and here's someone who's writing on the forum and trying to be objective regarding the situation and saying "I have nothing to do with the Shresthas". Ha! and I am the prez of the US....

You said: "But, when you are paid $30 per hour by the IT
firm, and get employment based GC in three years, that's a pretty cool
deal" - The reason I used the IT firms as an example was to point out that some of the companies do pad up the resumes of the clients and charge, Yes my friend, charge them money to "guarantee" GC...Yes my friend, that is how i got my GC with Cisco. 

You said: "The company (in this case the couple's restaurant)
makes too many apps such that there is no chance of getting a GC..." - Ah that's right, people start restaurant biz as just a false front....they are essentially using that to apply for GC illegally. Have you ever owned a biz? You have more to lose as a biz owner than others. I'm sure you think that the couple is busy applying for GC for all nepalis rather than worrying about what to put on their buffet item for tomorrow....LMAO

You said: "Have some dignity to accept your mistakes and come
out with an apology, in a nicer attitude. " Huh??? I didn't think my earlier post was an apology...It was a different take on the issue, please re-read if you didn't catch the gist the first time....

You said: "Even a few family members of the the couple say
such things about the couple."  Wait, were these family members also charged $15K by the couple for their GC...hahaha. How much did you pay them...lol

You said: "You know my friends, when you have children, you
are ready to do anything for them.  People with children
and in need of help are the easiest target anyways. How brilliant of
them!" - I say, how brilliant of you to use this novel concept almost Karan Johar type of pulling on the heart strings of the masses that read your post...Oh how can the big bad gundas prey on the innocent people who have children...Should i even add a villainous soundtrack..."dhan ta ran..." LOL!!!

sadman777, there is no point writing things on sajha about these crooks.i think you and other should reach FBI for this fraud and get them busted.

I really appreciate your comments. I am glad there is someone who thinks positively about them.
Amazing America. I love this country. People must hear both sides of the story before reaching a conclusion.

However, you would be the first one, since I have been interested in this matter, since about 2008. I hope there are even more who can back them up so confidently. But, your arguments are still not convincing as you only rebut my statements that has nothing to do with the couple's actions. Remember, this is not about me or you, and my apologies if I have put forth words to reflect any such feelings. This is about the ill-deeds of Shyam and Shanti Shrestha that I am aware of, and I am not saying this out of personal vendetta, I am just trying to infrom the public so that there are no more victims. And in effort to enlight people why they should refrain from engaging in any business with them without the help of a capable counsel, I am just acting as a communicator to the victims. Please do not take this personally, and I really apologize if I offend you in any ways.

By the way, I googled Karan Johar. I am glad you compare me with an award winning Director of Indian cinema. If only I could understand the Indian Language, it would have been nice, eh! Thank you though.

And, I did not have to pay anyone anything. I was born and raised in the midwest. Just for your information, Estes Park Colorado is a pretty cool place to live and make friends. A great retreat for those who suffer. And I am glad to have spoken to someone, who knows some of those victims and is tired of the couple's wrong behavior. Small world this is, eh!

If anyone have more Green Card cases with them or perhaps more details please email me. Again, do not be afraid. Do not be fooled by the fear they might have shown to you. If you are still illegal, your case could be even stronger with an argument that you fell victim to the false promosises shown by this couple. And if you have fallen victim to this couple or any other greedy people, you should let public know, so that no one is hurt again. This must stop - NOW.

Within the next few days, I will have an incident report of one Jyoti Dhital, who sent me a long email and said that he doesn't care if his name is out in public. I am putting it in a more simpler form so that we can all understand how Shyam and Shanti Shrestha plays with people's lives. Unfortunatley Mr. Dhital is still awaiting his $28,000 after 4 years. Don't worry folks, this is nothing do with Green Card, it is something else, and you won't believe how innocent the couple act and take United States law as a defense to their case, when in fact, they themselves are violating it.

Thank you for reading. I think I am going to watch "Kuch Kuch Hota Hai" (Translation: Something Happens, with subtitles of course), which happens to be Karan Johar's Directorial Debut, and won all the major awards.

PShrestha78,

Thank you for reading. I am afraid FBI and the authorities have too many cases like this, and the Shrestha couple are in their just another To-Do List. But time will come when they will have their days soon.

In the meantime, I think we should shed light among the community to avoid any victimization by the couple or anyone like them.

sadman77, most Nepali people know about these crooks. so in a way, i am sorry to say but your effort to educate Nepali people about these crooks is useless  fundamentally. The people who you are calling victims were the ones who reached these crooks. they beg them to take money and make them greencards. again, people go to these crooks, these crooks don't advertise on newspapers. so they are in fault too. people are desperate. and you know what , most people who come to usa and can spend 28k or more are not poor, even if they go back to Nepal, but people like to go there with their green cards or citizenship and boast about their wealth to other people, their relatives, friends etc... when they get green cards they do the same things to other Nepali people. this is a thrid world mentality which will not go away so easily.

the way i see it , there are three parties who are part of this fraud..

1) the so called victims, who went to these crooks to cheat the US immigration system. no matter how desperate you are a crime is a crime. you can be starving to death but if you kill someone then you are a murderer. and these victims are victims of course, but primarly of their greed and then Shrestha and co.

2) US immigration sytem: the green card frauds are rampant. it's not just in Nepali communities but in chinese, indian, almost all international communities. people with papers are using people without papers as slaves. and what have been done to rectify these, nothing. if authorities were really cracking down on these modern slave owners then there would be no Shyam,Narayan,Shati and others in this great country.

3) frauds like Shyam and Shanti..

sadly, Sir, i have to tell you this. if you don't have a pleanty of time with the heart like size of colorado, don't get involved into this. this keeps going, there is no end of this slave-slavery,greencard, greed, saga.. everyone's guilty and no one is innocent, some get used some use them.. i spent a lot of time trying to understand this b.s and the more i dig into it the more sadder i became..

the truthhurts, i understand your sentiments but i doubt your arguments. CISCO don't take money to file for green card. The money has to be paid by the employer to process green card and i'm sure a reputed company like cisco don't care about extra 4-5 k to file for an employee's gc.  yes, you may have paid that to your indian consultancy. but my friend, lots of Nepali people are not educated like you and Indian consultancy path is not suitable for all of them. some of them might have come to this country in their late lives or simply didn't get lucky on faking their resume and finding a job.since you 've got your green card that way, you must know that you are an example of very few IT consultants who got their green cards. most are chewed and thrown by desis a long ago before they get their green cards.

           Again the most funny thing is one illegal path is not better than other one. they both are illegal. faking a resume , boasting the work experence, having someone else take interviews or video screening is illegal as well. And as you know lots and lots of people complain about these IT companies too and now a days it's almost impossible to go through these desi companies since they are getting their arse busted. Shanti and Co and other restaurant owners who  take advantage of the system should deserve similar treatment from authorities. Anyway, blaming victims for not taking advantage of IT consultancies instead don't give shanti and co justification to take advantage of immigration system and cheat other Nepalis.  

 As a Nepali i am sick and tired of people getting away with corruption, scam and all types of crimes even mass murders(prachanda). Nepali people never come up together and bust these sucm bags. lot of times they have supporters , what suprises me the most. write anything about moaists and you'll find 10 people writing against them but there will be around 4 who will supporting them. nothing will happen to our country, our identity unless we start unaccepting these people.