I am posting the new National Anthem of Nepal so that we all can memorize. It seems we may wake up one morning knowing the fact that we need to recite this anthem every morning. Seeing the current trend the morning will come sooner than later. 


" Jana Gana Mana Adhinayaka Jaya He
Bharat Bhagya Vidhata
Punjab Sindh Gujarat Maratha
Dravida Utkala Banga
Vindhya Himachal Yamuna Ganga
Ucchala Jaladhi Taranga
Tubh Shubha Name Jage
Tubh Shubha Ashisha Mange
Gahe Tubh Jaya Gata
Jan Gan Mangaldayak Jay He
Bharat Bhagya Vidhata
Jaye He ! Jaye He ! Jaye He !
Jaye,Jaye,Jaye,Jaye He "


Bharat Mata ki jaya.

Jaba Bharat mata ki jaya bhanne din najik audai nai cha bhane...aile dekhi nai kina na bhanne

You guys and gurls have all rights to call me hypocrite.

deshbhaktanepali  must have some Indian blood...either from his mom's or dad's side or both.  That's why he is so eager to sing that Indian anthem. Anyone with pure Nepali blood will never sing that Indian anthem. 

We Nepali will remain NEPALI !

lootekukur! tero kura sunda tan kun duniya ma chas jasto lagcha? tero spam ko leader le india ko agadi pant ma muteko dekdha tan k mut sorera basira ho? muji tero hajurama soniya ko one phone call ma tero baje girjale arun 3rd india lai becheko kura talai tha cha..badta kura garcha..mentality change re..tero tauko india ko puppet neta haru cha, girija dekhi prachanda samma! tan muji badta bhasan garchas!

deshbhakta le bhanekokura ma ma agree nagereni tyo eagle5 le bhaneko kura chain thik ho...loote tero buddhi chain ...

deshbhaktha nepali
 i really agreed with u , that true  indian gonna takeover to nepal in some days coz now  some symtomes are showing by these puppet leaders ,  these guys do not believe that but all the leaders  lives india more than nepal and if there is something happen in nepal they are the first who go and live in india , do these  people understand , at least  our king is great even 90% of people want to throw out him and his kingdom but he still want to live in NEPAL , but if this things happen to PRACHANDA, GIRIJA, MKN,what they gonna answer , might be u need to  go to india to take there intreview for that also. and we dont need to talk about madishe party coz they like to give intreview in hindi and i dont think so that  they know any nepali language also.
  so best of luck all the NEPALI who is in nepal and in abroad

eagle5-- "They will suck nepal too that extent that nepal will not have anything for its own use, natural resources-water in particular, they will  control nepali politics from delhi."

--------> just exactly how will they do this?? are they going to carry the water in buckets to india. or are they gonna have pipe line directly connected to nepali rivers and they will transfer the water to india?? or maybe they will use the plane ani saab nepali haru chai aaluu kha jasto garera herera baschan ki kya ho. nachahini kura nagarana. these r like things you would say to uneducated ppl in order to create animosity towards india.  

"then why a leader of sovereign country would do negotiation with thier domestic political forces in the presense or request of  indian leaders and ambassador"

--------> maybe they are discussing about nepali border there r many terrorists who go to india through nepal. i have even heard that they have camps set up in nepal to train terrorists. which frankly wouldn’t surprise me. maybe they are discussing that they want nepal to help them make their country more secure and in return they will help nepal.

regardless of what ppl say progress in india has always helped nepal and india have helped our country in many ways. i think ppl r just jealous of india b/c they look just like us (well atleast some of us) their language is very similar to ours and yet they are so ahead of us. maybe we need to start focusing on the real problems in nepal and figuring out ways to minimize those problems. I am guessing u r in a foreign country.  Ho bhane yesto yaha samma arera pani yesto nachahini kura garne ho. Come on figure out ways to help poor ppl in nepal.

 

DC sissy,
i am not a big fan of girija and all other old-farts-good-for-nothing leaders. if india had encroached upon our lands in the past (tanakpur et. al. ), apart from india's double standards/hypocricies, our own leaders' failure to defend was equally accountable.

that said, our awareneness and recent transformation have given me reasons to believe that in the future, we will be more safe than vulnerable in the eyes of india/indians. if you followed the recent news, former foreign secretary of india Shyam Saran has reiterated that india is willing to revise the 1950 indo-nepal treaty. that's a welcoming gesture and i feel optimistic about it. we need to apply ourselves with adequate defense and logic so that there is no room for discrepancies in the deal.

if the neighbor is willing to help you, you better shake hand with them instead of doubting on their motives. some people can't get enough of whining and shedding tears. once bitten, twice shy? jeez....

The pain of losing a nation


By Sudheer Sharma

On the northern corner of West Bengal state of India , there is a hill station-- Kalimpong, which once hosted celebrities from all over the world. The hill town, where most of the settlers are of Nepali origin, no longer retains its old charm. But until a few weeks ago the last prime minister of a country—that has lost its independence—used to live here. Kazi Lhendup Dorji, who died on 28 July this year at the ripe old age of 103, had played a pivotal role in the merger of Sikkim into India .

Dorji is seen as a ‘traitor’ in the contemporary history. He lived, and died, with the same ignominy. “Everybody accuses me of selling the country. Even if it is true, should I alone be blamed?” he asked me, when I met him in Kalimpong in November 1996. But the allegation of ‘betrayal’ towards one’s own motherland was so powerful that Dorji could no more lead an active political life. He spent his solitary life at the ‘Chakung House’ in Kalimpong for several decades. Few people chose to remember Kazi when he passed away nor took pain to recall his life and times.

So much so that the Kazi was ignored even by Delhi . “I went out of my way to ensure the merger of Sikkim into India but after the work was done, the Indians just ignored me,” Kazi told me during an interview for Jana Astha weekly, nearly 11 years ago. “Earlier, I used to be given a ‘Red Carpet’ welcome. Now I have to wait for weeks even to meet second grade leaders.”

When I visited Kalimpong for the second time in 2000, Lhendup’s anger towards Delhi had reached new heights. At one time, he was received warmly by Indian leaders including Jawaharlal Nehru and Mrs Indira Gandhi. But later he became a political actor whose utility had been finished and thrown away into the dustbin.

The origin of crisis

After India got independence in 1947, the Sikkim State Congress, which was established as per the advice of Nehru, launched anti-King movement. Sikkim managed to overcome the crisis then but after Indira Gandhi became Prime Minister of India, the tiny Himalayan kingdom found itself in a crisis from which it could never escape. The anti-King movement, launched by the Sikkim National Congress (SNC) under the leadership of Lhendup Dorji in 1973, led to the demise of a sovereign nation.

India openly supported the movement against King (Chogyal) Palden Thondup Namgyal. The then ADC to the King, Captain Sonam Yongda, claimed that soldiers of Indian Army in civil dress used to take part in the protests. Some of the protesters were brought from Darjeeling and the surrounding areas. The number of Sikkimese who took part in the protest was quite small. But that was enough.

Lhendup’s protest movement depended mainly on Indian financial assistance. The money was made available through Intelligence Bureau (IB). “The people from IB used to visit me twice or thrice a year. An IB agent, Tejpal Sen, used to handover money to me personally,” Dorji had told me in a recorded interview.

In fact, the main actor behind the “ Mission Sikkim ” was India ’s external intelligence agency, RAW (Research and Analysis Wing). Set up in 1968, RAW was able to disintegrate Pakistan (and form Bangladesh ) within three years. The annexation of Sikkim was their other ‘historic’ success. The strategists of RAW didn’t want to repeat a Bhutan in Sikkim . Bhutan managed to acquire the membership of the United Nations in 1968. So, they launched a movement under the leadership of Lhendup, which is described at great length by Ashok Raina in his book Inside RAW: The Story of India’s Secret Service.

Raina writes that New Delhi had taken the decision to annex Sikkim in 1971, and that the RAW used the next two years to create the right conditions within Sikkim to make that happen. The key here was to use the predominantly-Hindu Sikkimese of Nepali origin who complained of discrimination from the Buddhist king and the elite to rise up. “What we felt then was that the Chogyal was unjust to us,” said CD Rai, editor of Gangtok Times and ex-minister. “We thought it may be better to be Indian than to be oppressed by the king.”
Lhendup—who belonged to the Kazi family—had a historic enmity with Sikkim ’s ruling Chogyals. He said he wanted to pressurise the King through public protests but lamented that the King never came forward for reconciliation.

Under pressure from Delhi , the Sikkimese King was forced to hold tripartite talks with SNC and India . The talks not only curtailed royal powers, it also turned Sikkim into an Indian ‘protectorate.’ In the elections held in 1974, Lhendup’s SNC got overwhelming majority in the parliament. The government and the king saw each other as enemies. Ultimately, the cabinet meeting, on 27th March 1975 , decided to abolish monarchy. The Sikkimese parliament endorsed it and decided to hold a referendum on the future of monarchy. Four days later, the outcome of the poll in 57 stations across the country was: ‘Abolition of the monarchy.’

In an interview, then Agriculture Minister of Sikkim KC Pradhan recalled that the referendum was nothing but a charade. “Indian soldiers rigged the polls by pointing rifles at the hapless voters,” he said. Immediately after the referendum, Kazi Lhendup moved a motion in the parliament proposing that Sikkim be annexed to India . The 32-member parliament, which had 31 members from Lhendup’s SNC—passed the motion without a blink. Needless to say that the entire episode was being orchestrated by India . The then Indian envoy to Sikkim (known as ‘political officer’) BS Das wrote in his book The Sikkim Saga, Sikkim ’s merger was necessary for Indian national interest. And we worked to that end. Maybe if the Chogyal had been smarter, and played his cards better, it wouldn’t have turned out the way it did.”

But Chogyal didn’t play his cards well. When Sikkim was undergoing turmoil, the Chogyal visited Kathmandu in 1974 to attend the coronation ceremony of King Birendra. According to insiders, King Birendra, Chinese deputy premier Chen Li Yan and Pakistan ’s envoy advised Chogyal not to return to Sikkim . “They narrated a ‘master plan’ to save Sikkim from Indian hands but the King didn’t accept,” said Captain Yongda. “It was because the King couldn’t think even in his dreams that India could use force to annex Sikkim .”

Pessimism and Optimism are two flipside of a coin. Where there is destitution, there is affluence too. It is just the matter of opiniating oneself in the manners of social accpetance norms. India taking over Nepal might seem farfetched, or Nepal handing over itself to India might seem nonetheless improbable, one plain thorn in the flesh will but only mitigate the very issue here. Will we be singing Jana Gana Mana pretty soon?

I daresay, being a Nepali (not a die hard patriot), I would be appalled to see that. I wish we won't see that day in a thousand years to come, but then, it is only my wish. I don't follow current affairs or political happenings, but this much I know, it will take a miracle perchance to avoid this in coming days. I see a lot of animosity in this thread upon imposing one's belief over the war of words and factual presentaion. The effort is laudable, however, it is just a small spark that immolates the whole jungle.

In the last 300 or so years of Nepalese political upheaval, we have seen scores of revolution, bloody massacres, coup d'etats and in plain words, oppression. From the time of Shah dynasty ( I point this only as a reference as it is still very much relevant to present Nepal), to the recent victors of the "chosen by the free will of Nepalese people in a very democratic process" the Maoists, we can but only see a grim past and future. If we hope that the Maoists are going to make things any better, I wish it be true at all costs. Too many people of sacrificed their blood and freedom (yes, freedom in a democracy!) to come to this point where all of us are looking forward to building a NEW NEPAL.

But one thing I do not understand. Pardon my ignorance or error in chronology.

2007 BS: Democracy after rana regime

2017 BS: Panchayati system implemented by King Mahendra

2036 BS: Janama Sangraha/ revolution/ sustainance of panchayati system

2046 BS: Jana-andolan./ Democracy finally

2047 BS: Nepali Congress helms the government

2050 BS: NC government dissolved and formation of Communist led govenment

2051 BS: Communist government dissolved/ Maoists start their decade-long insurgence

2057 BS: Royal Massacre / King Gyanendra coronated

2061 BS: King Gyanendra dissolves the government/ Declares State of Emergency

Subsequently. Opposition parties and maoists unite to oust the king and restore democracy. However, maoists have denied or walked out from the peace talks with the opposition parties and government before King Gyanendra supposed the power. After the alliance of the opposition and maoists, a bloody rebellion ensued to which King Gyanendra bowed and pulled out from his state of power. Whereupon, Maoists and the newly reinstated governement had a peace accord and Maoists "demanded" that they be a part of the government as well as abolish the Monarchy. After months, if not years of speculation and estimation, finally elections are held, in which Maoists are the victors. Before the elections were held, there were violent ethnical clashes in Terai region in which many people lost their lives. Finally, after the elections, it was decided that Monarchy be abolished in the first parliament assembly. The ethnic groups of Terai demand their autonomy. Nepal is to be declared a Republic in the first assembly meeting as well.

I might have made mistake in date or chronological order, the error is solely mine.

In the last 18 years of democracy, so many events have happened. Government changes every year or two. Violence is rampant. Prices have sky rocketed because of shortages or black markets. Everyday life has become hellish. I agree, in order to build a building, we need to dig a foundation and start building blocks, and it is not a pretty sight. But if the foundation itself is lacking the infrastructure, the building will never be built because of the fuss over the foundation. Nepal has been digging the foundation in the last 18  years, when India started its economical enrichment. After 18 years, the face of Nepal has changed, a blemished and scarred by the power hungry politicians or I daresay, farsighted politicians doing their best to put Nepal in the path of progress. India, since then has enjoyed the rise in its economical behemoth, whereas Nepal and its denizens are still mulling over the Monarchy, Republc and Communism.

Does India want to invade(?) Nepal? I don't think so. Does Nepal want to assimilate into India? Definitely not. Maybe not. But why are we crying and speculating that it might so happen very soon? the answer is simple. The politicians. Who makes the policies and government run? Politicians who are as much human as us. And mind you, they are the same politicians in the last 18 years, and from before that. So, if nothing has changed in the last 50 plus years in politics, I see a very less chances (however i wish I could say more) in anything new employed that benefits us. As for singing the Jana Gana Mana, if proper measures are not taken in the handling of the politics of Nepal, India won't have to prescribe the anthem. So much said, I genuinely respect the thoughts and opinions put in this thread.

I openly agree with Deshbhakta (but I hope it doesn't happen). Loote, whats up man! I applaud your enthusiasm and optimism (I am not the cynical type). This is a sensitive issue and it should be handled carefully. But as I see, guys, respect others' opinions, and get your opinions resspected. That is also a key to progress. If I am wrong, tell me so. I will agree to your reasons as per your point of view. But if I am wrong, badmouthing will certainly not make you right. We don't want to be labelled as a bunch of whiners and crybabies who take it to streets in almost everything, truth or not. Having said so, I rest my case. If we don't want to sing Jana Gana Mana, lets unite and respect each other. After all, development and progress starts from home.

 

 

 

 

Excellent thought...mcmxc!

Deshbhaktanepali States,"BathroomCoffee....your message, your selection of words and yours knowledge of english grammar explains your understanding and attitude. Why don't you write in Nepali if you are not comfortable with English language. I believe all of us visiting sajha do understand Nepali.

I don't think i will like to discuss with someone who do not even respect minimum norms of social communication"

 

ha ha ha Hasaucha !! My message, my knowledge, and my choice of words makes you understand WHAT MORON ? SPELL IT OUT !! Oh Now MR I AM SUPERIOR NEPALI WANTS ME TO WRITE IN NEPALI ? ha ha ha I only respect people who respect others. YOU TALK AS IF YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON IN NEPAL AND WE ARE ALL IDIOTS RIGHT ? THE SAME WAY YOU THINK YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE HERE. HE HE Which proves my point that you must be one of those elements that lost all your priveledges in the shuffling of power in the overhauling of Nepali political system. That is probably why you are soo quick to point fingers and put forth the doomsday scenario scare tactics like India taking over Nepal. ha ha ha And please pardon my mediocre knowledge of English language ....ha ha ha

Oh yeah I forgot Nehru is coming back Evil Dead Style to engulf Nepal. ha ha ha He is bringing Subash Chandra Gosh, Gandhi, Sadar Patel, Bhagat Singh, Maulana Azad all them dead corpses to invade Nepal. ha ha ha

 

 

mcmxc,
nothing much man. how is it hanging?

appreciate your input. took me a while to dig in through , but at least you came up with some reasonings unlike some whiners in this thread.

anyways, let's cut my long story short. here's what i think:

don't want to sound like great lincoln, but i think that nepal is yet to see a full-fledged democracy that works for the people and by the people and here's why:

1) 2007 revolution simply handed over the regime from Ranas to Shahs. One form of autocracy ended but another rose in the outset, especially after 2017 BS.

2) In 2046 BS, people revolted and thought they won democracy as a big prize only to realize later that it entailed nothing but transformation of power from Shahs to Koiralas/Makunes. I believe that Nepali congress is another form of monarchy we have in Nepal. And other parties are following suit.

3) The recent revolution(2006/07), I believe, is the most crucial of all. I sincerely hope that this is the transformation that's gonna give us people the 'democracy' we're craving for centuries and I hope it does not turn out to be another mere handing over of power from Koiralas/Shah to the ultra-leftists/leftists camps. In other words, I hope that no other extremism rises in Nepal in the name of communism and that the true voices of people are  heard and theirs wants implemented.

From its making, it looks like we're heading towards the right direction. And the reason for my optimism is for that very reason. Social disparity and dominance of class that's plaguing our nation for eons have been addressed as national issues for the first time in Nepal. A new constitution via proportional representatives will be drafted soon. From there on, if nothing tragic happens, we are only going to get better.

People's power is the strongest of all. No true Nepali wants his/her country to be manipulated by burlesque Indian politics. As long as voices of commoners are heard and respected in Nepal, India would not be able to impose their hegemony on Nepal. That much I am very confident about.

deshbhaktanepali aap jyaada samajhdaar ho!

Constitution hum likhe aur national anthem koi dusri ho :-o

 

One step closer guys....have you guys tried to memorize it.

I read in newspaper while ago that some dozens of private school in birganj and biratnagar are teaching with indian textbooks containing the life of gandhi, jana gana mana etc etc. After all it has already becoming closer to reality than we imagine huh?

so guys be happy we all can get blue passport for free
（US KO CHAI HOINA INDIA KO CHA NI)

I don't see all those ash holes nationalist who called me names when i made a valid arguement. Are you guys still there???

Deshbhakta nepali is like his word say a true deshbhakta, who is scared about the present political culture in Nepal. His writing tell us that Nepal is on the verge of merger or takeover from India. becos Indian influence is so much it is running in the blood of our so called respected leaders.

He (the writer) must have gone through various developments at the government level that has surrendered our natural resources to India at different time (NC, UML et al.) with proper ratification/discussion in the so-called gothaley haru ko jamat----SAMSAD/(parliament--for the speakers of english).

Gradual encroachment of nepali land, inundation in the Nepali fertile land due to high rise dams built in the Indian side encroaching internation borders/norms.

He sees no hope of our country to develop seeing the same old people in the government and committing the same mistakes that have brought us to this unfateful situation.

He must be really angry at Madhesi people asking everything including One Madhes One Province and Collective entry of a particular people of particular place (even that is a vague defination--Madhes) into Nepal army.

He must be really pissed off at Girjau to have signed such a deal (yet again) while in government and again, instead of asking for forgiveness, blindly supporting madhesi to disrupt CA assembly and throwing moral support to them.

He must be really pissed off at Untrustworthiness of NC, UML, Maoists to scrape A HINDU RASTRA symbol that had been a national identity (At behest of Congress (I) govt)) without proper referendum or discussion among general people.

I think deshbhakta Nepali is trying pour his anger, in turn making you feel,, what is so wrongly going on in Nepal and in what direction our small beautiful country with innocent people are going towards..

Hatts off to you Deshbhakta............ I know how you feel.......This is the voice of deshbhakta not of a particular party ka karyakarta. so it deserved discussion and response and infact it deed (calculated by the number of hits and good comments/response arising out of it)))..

khoi k khoi k!! It is obvious that india has used teraian leaders as lendup first disintegrate it later unify that with bihar ,making a lame hills and mountains Dhoti hopes to find an easy way to swallow my motherland.few morons find it as easy and as approaching and has posted this fu**king post but my belief is as strong as it  is possible that it s the     only impossible thing for a DHOTI,and shit Upendras ."now we are silent and everyone is dancing once we will start dancing and everything will be silent but that will be silent for ever, an  eternal peace"""let them dance till they ask for water then i have filled my dick with my pee ready for their mouth..

hari dai, kura ta tapai le thikkai garnu bhayo but you again lost the track of things happening in Nepal. It is not just Madhesi leaders like Upendra Yadav or some Tripathi or Mahato are working as Indian agent. It is very easy to point finger on them for acting on behalf of RAW because you do not believe them to be true Nepali in the first place just because they wear dhoti-kurta and not pant-shirt ( i know you believe pant-shirt is more Nepali than dhoti-kurta).

How do you defend the position taken so called Nepali leaders (i mean Pahadi leaders here) such as GP Koirala and Prachanda who decided to grant 3.5 million citizenship in 4 months. Yes, the population of Nepal increased by 15% within 4 months. How do you defend the decision taken by these leaders to agree with demands of Madhesi's neta last year. The situation is basically "ta kute jasto garr ma roye jasto garchu". Madhesi leaders are basically used as pawn by Indian authorities so that it will make a way for leachers like GP Koirala and Prachanda to find a way to make a decision. Madeshi leaders are making one demand after another as instructed and these power hungers will agreee on one demands after another putting the blame on Madhesi leaders.

In simple words, either it be Madhesi leaders or Pahade leaders they are acting as a pawn in the greater interest of their masters.

Jai Hind

akir yestai situation dherai din rahane ho bhane India ra china le Nepal 50-50 badera linchan hai. Mt Everest HU Jintao Everest , buddha ko janmasthalo Bihar..

i think they already sing jana gana mana in indian run schools in kathmandu like modern indian school and rupy's intl' school. such thing shud be stopped