People in Nepal are finally starting to feel the sense of security, hope of ending the war, breathe corruption free air and Nepalese in America are protesting this. I finally feel comfortable to send my kids to their school because there are security people around their school so that our kids can feel safer and concentrate on their studies with out any fear. Finally we have more working days and less Nepal bandh, lot less protest rallies unlike in the past when there used to be rallies every single day by some group against every government we have ever had. RNA is risking their lives and finally, starting to take controller over the towns and villages which moist previously had been dictating and killing everyone if they didn?t like their face. Nepalese people in Nepal finally getting back the hope they had lost, that some day we could be moist free, a safe country to live in.

People! These are good signs. This makes our country more democratic and you people are protesting against it. I live in Nepal and I am not as highly educated as most of you who live in America. It is a shame that you are protesting against the better things that are happening in my country. How could you be so ruthless? How could you be so blind? You all are living a better life there, why are you all trying to be smart a55. We are the one we have to put up with all the things. Why are you trying to take away our security, our happiness? If tomorrow with your effort Girija, or sher bahadur, or Madhav comes back to the power, our life is going back to the same ciaos again. They are not brave enough to go head to head with our nation?s enemy. They are not loyal enough to fulfill our dreams. Pease don?t get me wrong, I love democracy but I just don?t believe in our democratic leaders. I dream every day that someday we would be land of peace again. Please don?t shatter 22 million people?s dreams. If you can?t help please don?t hurt either.

Bravo Hushpuppy!
You got it Saroj?
Democracy gives people the chance to vote their leaders. You can vote Gyane, I will vote Hush. Pull Gyane out from Narayanhiti and tell him to contest the election with Hush now. Do you have that courage?
'Democracy doesn't work. It's not time for democracy' re. Don't you know Democratic reforms started in England in the 12 th century and France in the 14 th century? If it's not reform time in the 21st century in Nepal, when does the democracy you envisage comes in Nepal. After the 30th century?

well done Hush. Saroj bro le TORI KO FUL dekhya ho?

This Saroj dude sure has eaten a lot of namak from Gyane.

Newuser oh now you're hiding under hushpuppies skirts. I thought you were smart enough to come with your own answers than taking refuge in someone elses incoherent musings.

I am not a fan of politics. For me politics is a necessary evil where you have to choose the better of the worst.

For me human lives are more important and I choose an option where less people have to die. I don't have a double standard like you living safely in the US while inciting people to die for a cause that they will never live to bear fruit in their lifetime. Probably not even their kids for that matter.

I am not in favor of plunging the country into darkness for 100's of years hoping that there is going to be sunlight after that.

The world community is becoming more liberal and democratic and that kind of exposure will slowly seep into Nepal leading to a more smoother transition than the CHAOS you guys want Nepalis to go thru in Nepal, while you enjoy your Latte and Fast Internet Connections in the US.

I'm not ready for people of nepal to suffer for another 500 years while you guys are safely tucked away from all the shit that's going to hit the fan if your movement is successful.

Hushpuppy thanks for asking about my balls they are fine thank you and they are big enuff to not fit in a lot of common places.

kokoholo go and read http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=20819

I know what's going on. But still I feel this is a better option. You are welcome to disagree. I will not benefit in anyway whether King rules or Democratic party since i live in Europe. I am not anti democracy, I am anti - chaos and anti - imaginary hopes that could plung our country into a total nightmare.

Saroj said:Newuser oh now you're hiding under hushpuppies skirts.
Newuser replies:
Well, I'd prefer hiding under her skirt than hiding under Komal Rajya laxmi Shaha's sari like you. :)

Saroj bro, your frantic effort to protect KG is damaging your own personality to be honest. Rather give up speaking for a despot.

saroj: i don't restrict myslef as a skirted female i am a person

you now said: i don't know politics, i can't help myslef from tucking into my mother's arms when there are real wars going on, i cannot see people striding for a better life and world..cause i 'm a major loser..

you're right your balls can't fit into common place...YOU PROVED IT TO BE THE SIZE OF A PEA>>>thanks for letting evryone know that...nows don't bother blabbering here again...i'm gonna punch you in the face

For me human lives are more important and I choose an option where less people have to die. I don't have a double standard like you living safely in the US while inciting people to die for a cause that they will never live to bear fruit in their lifetime. Probably not even their kids for that matter.

I am not in favor of plunging the country into darkness for 100's of years hoping that there is going to be sunlight after that.

The world community is becoming more liberal and democratic and that kind of exposure will slowly seep into Nepal leading to a more smoother transition than the CHAOS you guys want Nepalis to go thru in Nepal, while you enjoy your Latte and Fast Internet Connections in the US.

I'm not ready for people of nepal to suffer for another 500 years while you guys are safely tucked away from all the shit that's going to hit the fan if your movement is successful.

What do you guys have to say about it? Looks like all you can do now is start name calling.

you asked for this: YOU DON"T DESERVE TO KISS MY ASS>> so every word you spill henceforth means that you are LICKING SHIT...peace out..kudos..staudy learn..get your fatcs together before you speak

Don't give me bullshit Saroj, if you did not have direct benifit from the Royal farts you would not be standing up for a despot autocratic ruler of Nepal.

'I am not in favor of plunging the country into darkness for 100's of years hoping that there is going to be sunlight after that. '

How could you be in favour of sunlight into the country when your house is lit with the favour of KB and KG. You are jealous that others home will be lit if democracy is restored, aren't you?
I would have been ashamed to advocate dictatorship from Europe where all the nations are prospering under democracy. Better read some history of the Europeans first. And know how democracy got it's foothold in Europe.

Saroj has some good points. Newuser and Hushpuppy, if you guys were residing in Nepal and were willing to put yourselves or your children through dark-times while the light of democracy and your so called "everything is good" that you imagie will be brought by it, slowly starts to shine, then you guys have some validity in your points; but using the security and luxury provided by a foreign land to voice your points that might not be a popular instance in Nepal, does not.

Kripaya ek arkai ki ta Rajabadi, Maobadi ya khaoBadi NAI HO bhanera socehra bahek
"Yeh yeuta nepali le yesto pani sochda raicha, kina and kasari ma jau"

One person says one thing and instead of arguing of the presented argument, every start to attack his/her leaning.
ABa uslai tyasto lagcha re, usko bichar. Aru lai tyasto lagdaina re uni haru ko bichar.
Why do one has to be of THIS GROUP or THAT GROUP.

La ta aru kehi hoina, Pashupati nath ji sochdai hunu huncha. Pahila kun Nepali kobbhalo garau bhanera.

Jai Nepal.
IndisGuise:)

And newuser, how could you not be in 'favor of plunging the country into darkness for 100's of years,' afterall you are not the one going to have to live with it.

SAROJ JI,
I AM REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT THERE ARE STILL SOME PEOPLE WHO THINK LIKE YOU DO. I SALUTE YOU MY BROTHER. APPRECIATE YOU STANDING FOR COMMON NEPALESE PEOPLE WHO LOVE PEACE. I AGREE WITH EVERY SINGLE WORD YOU SAID.

NEWUSER, DO YOU SEE WHY I HATE YOU, DAWG? YOU ARE TOO HARD HEADED, MORE LIKE A ?VENDA?. YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO WOULD GO THROW STONES AT MADHAV NEPAL?S HOUSE IF GIRIJA ORDER YOU TO DO SO. YOU ARE STILL THE SAME OLD ?CHHAKARI BAJIYYA?. YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE BOX. AND YOU KEEP HARASSING/ INSULTING PEOPLE WHO SPEAKS THE TRUTH. AND THE TRUTH IS, YOU DON'T LIKE TO HEAR THE TRUTH BECAUSE YOU ARE SO BLINDFOLDED BY YOUR FANTASY. I KNOW, DEEP INSIDE YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY AND THE PEOPLE AND I?M SURE YOU REGRET LOT OF THINGS YOU SAY . AND I?M SURE IT DOES BUGG YOU ONCE IN A WHILE KNOWING THAT WHAT YOU SAID IS NOT ALL GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE OF NEPAL. BUT YOU STILL KEEP OPENING YOU CRAPY MOUTH LIKE YOU CAN?T KEEP IT SHUT FOR A SECOND. DO YOU REALLY DREAM OF BECOMING ONE OF THE PARTY LEADERS SOMEDAY OR SOMETHING? WHO ARE YOU FIGHTING FOR, BRO? IS CONGRESS PARTY PAYING YOU TO PROMOTE THIS RALLY OR SOMETHING? YOU SPEND YOUR DAYS AND NIGHT HERE ON THIS WEBSITE 24/7, ARE YOU CURRENTLY UNEMPLOYED? WHO IS FINANCIALLY SUPPORTING YOU, YOUR WIFE? WHAT A LOOSER?

PUPPY-HUSH-..WHEN DID YOU START COMMENTING ON POLITICAL STUFF.SUJATAT INSPIRED YOU ALL OF A SUDDEN OR WHAT?. BABY..I THOUGHT YOU STOP SUCKING BALLS AFTER DELL CRACKED YOUR A$$ BIG TIME. SAROJ BRO, YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO BUY COUPLE OF GMC TRUCKS TO FILL IN THAT HOLD CASUSE IT IS BIGGER THAN SUJATA?S.

BOTH YOU MORONS ARE NOT GOING TO GAIN ANYTHING BY BICKERING AT EACH OTHER. People in Nepal are having a hard time making ends meet and here are two morons going at each other argueing who is a better leader, who's done what, who's taken more money..and blah blah blah

It ain't going to do you's any good talking abou the past. ITS DONE.... GONE. Should help people look into the future instead of arguing liek Bheyyda's locking horns.

USER NAME JI,

I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE BEEN GOING THRU, BUT I AM CERTAINLY HAPPY THAT LIFE IS LITTLE BETTER FOR Y'ALL. I HAVE LOT OF RESPECT FOR YOU MY BROTHER! FOR STAYING STRONG AND FOR ALL YOUR SACRIFICES FOR THE GOOD OF THE NATION. YOU ARE MY HERO. IF I EVER MEET NEWUSER IN PERSON, I WILL MAKE SURE TO KICK HIS BUTT FOR YOU AND ALL THE OTHER NEPALESE WHO IS SUFFERING FOR OUR MISTAKES. (I'M SERIOUS ABOUT THE LAST LINE). I'M SURE HE IS GOING TO BE AT THE RALLY.

Indibro :)
Pashupatinath le garne bhaye aaja samma gari saknu hunthyo. Shivadev ko paala dekhi Gyanendra ko pala samma Pashupati le herera matra basnu bhayo. Aba ma chai herera nabasni yar. Kamsekam rally ma gaera bhaneni chitta bujhauni. You differ from my ideas and still I appreciate you because you don't make one sided comments. Neither do I (if people read what I have been writing since long)

for others, I can't help opposing dictatorship. K garni yar afulai kasaiko haikam baad sahiya hudaina.

Hotstuff bro, we agreed not to argue haina ta. And you broke your promish man. K garne my employer allows me to use sajha at my will. And ghar ma euta thotro chha. Sajha ma kei nalekhi chittai bujhdaina. Aba you write what you think, and I do what I think. Ki kaso. Lekham lekham j j mann lagchha lekham.Mero ta kaam nai lekhne ho yar. Aba nalekhi ka basna sakchhu.
Hurray, you don't know that my dad n mum live in gaau and my brother studies in TC campus. I will go back to my country after I make money to build a house in Kathmandu. Then, I will start supporting King Gyanendra and Dictatorship haita. Jaba samma mero sukumbaasi status kayam hunchha, tetinjel I will support democracy and oppose dictatorship. cheers mate. :)

hotstuff you sniff your bong..hp is a grown lady now..i don't mind your comments but hey i'm not commenting on me its my right to democracy..

and hurray thanks for asking ...i belong to below the poverty class of U.S. and i'm proud to dirty my hands..beacuse i only depend on me to bring the food to table its good soulffood...but i aspire to be the president of my philosophies..its no luxury than the sevrants you have at home..and i will rely on my two small hands to where it can take me for years to come and i will pursue and my dreams as well...that includes Nepal....are you going to deny me that???Stop me if you can.I am compassiante that some of us have to live in nepal during dark times..but then whats gain without losses..join in for fight for democracy and you'll forget the pain..your grandkids will love you for it. Burn me in a stake and i will love it..if it restores democracy i'm in...so much ..............

Husspuppy,

From this devil's idle mind (as scribbled first right here in Sajha, and then formally published in www.samudaya.org and other pro-democracy websites):

[Of course, with all due love and respect to one of my pyaro Sajha boini] :)

"Support the Pro-Democracy Rally in Washington DC"

by ANIL J. SHAHI

May 2005

Serious (in terms of intensity by which they thrive) and protracted violent movements?like the Nepali Maoist conflict?take years, if not decades, to ferment. The root of Maoist problem in Nepal is the culture of inequality and suppression based on hierarchical system that was started by the Rana oligarchy and further perpetuated (at the most) and promoted (at the least) by the Panchayat autocracy.

Therefore, the real and sustainable solution to Maoist crisis would come not from further absolutism of the King, but from genuine and sincere empowerment of the people, which can only be guaranteed in a democratic system. Despite many failures of successive democratic governments of the post-Panchayat era, one area that Nepal made remarkable progress under democracy?albeit weak?was in empowerment of the people who were ignored, suppressed, and deprived of rights, privileges and opportunities, particularly those from the rural areas, who were/are the vast majority of Nepali population. In the long run, what really matters?and what really holds true solutions to social ills (corruption being one of them)?is the real and genuine power to the people.

Yes, the progress during the democratic era was very slow and definitely was not enough, and much, much more needed to be done. Nevertheless, we would be mistaken not to recognize the fact that the progressive trend towards better awareness (among the people) was started and was slowly but surely gaining pace in the 14 years or so of nascent democracy in Nepal. Despite some serious difficulties, this trend need not be halted, not even for a moment. KingG and his coterie of vision-deprived, obviously-not-fit-for-modern-times crooks, after extended efforts to undermine the democratic governments, have done just that.

There is not a shred of doubt that the political parties needed to be profoundly reformed and the likes of Girija, Deuba and MaKuNe (who too lacked any sense of vision and who also heralded from the old school that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in today's world) needed to be properly checked. However, this very process of desperately needed political, social and cultural transformation (not limited to political leaders alone) is not fathomable in any other system but democracy. Any course towards reform and positive changes is only viable in a democratic platform where the people can vibrantly debate, argue and draw constructive conclusions.

Democracy, not autocracy, ensures greater awareness among the people and empowers them. Empowered people create better political alternatives. Better political alternatives, in turn, obviously guarantees better results for the people. This is the way it works. And this is the way it should be.

There have been legitimate questions about the effectiveness of a rally being held half way around the world, hence reluctance of some to attend the rally.

First and foremost, my friends, please remember that it is a very simple matter of freedom of expression. If we are to deprive ourselves of our own very basic, fundamental rights just because of the fear of it?s ineffectiveness, then we'd be no worse than the King who deprives his people of those very rights. The right to freedom of expression is ours, and let us use it!

We all have traveled thousands of miles to an alien land because we all had our own respective dreams. Some of us will go back, or at least are seriously contemplating the idea, others won't?those are the freewill of every individual that must be respected. Nevertheless, the differences in personal choices of ways of livings do little to undermine the love for the land that we all grew up in, and the place that we all can commonly dearly associate with. It is in this spirit that ? despite the differences in the way we wish to live?the least we can do is show our support for those who are fighting for people's rights back home. Those who are risking jail, torture, or in some extreme cases "disappearance", to peacefully struggle for the much-needed genuine empowerment of the people are brave souls whom we must all have utmost respect for. Showing solidarity is one way to do so. And being at the rally is one way of expressing that solidarity.

At this critical juncture in our country's history, it has become imperative that we all stop and think of what kind of future we all desire for our country. We have lived under autocracies of one form or the other for most of our modern political history. It is about time we began to let go of the concept of needing a "father figure" to guide us all the time. It is about time that we begin to have confidence in ourselves, individually and collectively. And it is about time that we began to arouse better awareness among the people who still believe that an "individual" other than ourselves has the solutions to our problems. It is about time we fought absolutism of the King so that then we can effectively fight the tyranny of the Maoists, with the best weapon available: freewill of the people.

The rally is one way of making our voices heard, of showing our support for all those who dare to believe in the collective we, of spreading our message of people's power, and of creating better awareness amongst ourselves, so that when all is said and done, we will have a country that is thriving with democracy and personal liberty. There is absolutely no alternative to democracy in a multi-ethnic and pluralistic society like ours.
Please join the rally in DC if you can and support the cause for democracy and human rights in Nepal. This rally is not about the political leaders who undoubtedly have failed us time and again. Neither it is limited to fighting against absolutism of the King. This rally is about us?it is about you and I and every Nepali who dares to dream of a better future for ourselves. After all, it is not up to Girija, or MaKune, or Deuba, or KingG to deliver for us. We have the keys to our own future and it is only when we develop a sense of collective confidence in ourselves?through democracy?that we will succeed in achieving what now seems impossible.

Better tomorrow is achieved by believing in ourselves today. Let us believe in our rights, our strengths and our future. Let us not let an individual take those away from us.

Washington, DC, May 15th, Sunday. Be there!

thank you bhrata shree..i finally read thru your stuf..now i gotto hit my books ..will be following thru this and keep posting the follow up after the rally..i'm gonna be with you as long as you continue to hold your fort strong...