I read the news at Kathmandu Post on the topic:

Monarchy root cause of crisis
- http://kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?&nid=28461

Nepal saw the massacre of the last king Birendra and everyone in his family. We are seeing King G is acting in a crazy manner these days, it seems all that he is doing these days is for the love his son, which is similar to the Mahabharat's Dhritrastra's affinity to his son Duryodhan. As soon as Duryodhan was slained, Dhritrastra saw things clear even if he was blind from birth.

So, since Nepalese have seens so much upside down, unheaval in politics. What will be the scenario in the event Paras Shah will be eliminated? They say in politics everything is acceptable provided the conspiracy is hatched for the good of people. Who should take this job? Let's discuss.

Forget about killing. Assume Paras was killed in his Harley Davidson while biking in Dharan recently. How such event will change the political scenario as there is no one for king G without Paras, how king G will act?

It is funny. We never look at the underlying problems: Chaos created by netas. This is what I see in our folks. I am not a fan of parase. But not blaming netas like girja makes me laugh. We have a good habit of trying to find escape goat. Badai cha sabai lai. Enough of cheap talks.

Kulekhane,
Don't come under the impression that we are bashing Paras for no reason. He is like a rabid dog, so this discussion is very relevant, although, personally I don't feel comfortable with the word'eliminating'. Presently, it so happened that Paras is creating more headlines than Girija et al: kahile diplomats lai pitera, kahile keti lai tanera, kahile some Rana lai pitera, ta kahile Lauti lai pitera. So that's the reason why this thread came up.

It's not that people like the editor of Nikspaksya and Spotlight don't write about Girja et al. It's not that we at sajha have not had bashed Girija et al. Even today after all the kalo kartut of girija and his cronies we still are bombarded with hundreds of Girija related articles, cover stories in magazines etc. There are a plently of them who are still eulogizing Giriza et al. Of course,it has reduced much than the time when he welded absolute power. Now Gyanendra is the absolute authority, so all opportunists are paying obeiseance to him.

KABITA FROM A CHAKAR
Gyanendra timi Bhagwan hau,
Paras timi pani Bhagwan hau,
Timi hamra baba, amma hau,
Ratriya Ekta ka pratik hau,
Hami nepali ko ek matra sahara hau,
Hami nepali ko mutu ka dukdukki hau,
Pravu hajur ko succhi amrit ho,
Pravu hajur ko acchi bhagwan ko bivuti jastai ho

Kulekhaneji:

Why funny? This thread is to thrash Parase. It doesn't mean that people who write here are not writing against or forgetting the bhrasta netas. All are writing vehemently against the netas in so many other threads.

We are not asking you to be fan of parase, and what makes you think that fans of parase are writing in this thread... actually whoever are writing here are anti-fan of parase. We just wanna discuss what will happen if parase is removed somehow out of picture?

Thita thiti ho,
This Ramprasad Khanal, the chatukar number one, also runs NTV?s Lok Dohari program and immediately after Gyane?s Ashojtantra, he released a ghor stutibadi lok dohari album, the song being sth like ? neta le bigare yo desh, rajtantra nai chahinchh hamro Nepalma?? and guess what? Well, the chakadibaz got gorkhadakshinbahu (no exclamation mark here, you know that this is the tradition in Nepal).

I?m surprised that Sahabir Thapa did not mention Paras?s 'poignant poetry'. Soon after his declaration as the crown prince (i don't remember the date, but, it was on one of those Fridays reminiscent of that bloody Fridya, the Narayanhiti Hatyakanda) , it was published in Nepali newspapers that Paras had written a poem, and how good a poet he was?blah, blah. Nepali Times even had a front page article about Paras?s 'poignant poetry'. (you can find out that issue in Nepali Times archive on its site).

Now if he?s eliminated, I?m sure there will be some chakadibaz sahityakars who will write articles with titles like ? Kabi Paras Saha ka kabitaharu ma prayukta saundaryasastra? and again do not be surprised if that taluwa chatuwa stutilekhak gets Gorkhadakshinbahu.

Raute Ji, I am impressed with the way you have presented your thoughts..Really there are very very few people who get decorated with the Gorkha Daksin Bahu for performing genuine duties. Keep it up.

everybody bashing paras???....
What would you do if you were in his shoes???
Besides it is not his fault he is the crown prince..
Few years ago he was just a regular prince who was enjoying his life , like a regular dude..
Suddenly everyone wants him to change overnight!!! how can that happen????
It takes time..

LOL
हैन के सुन्नु पर्या यो कानले?
@कवि परास शाह@ रे!
पहिलो पटक सुन्न पाइयो यो कथन।

साथि हो यो तलको समाचारलाइ आजको युग अनुसारको साझा भाषामा भन्नु पर्दा कस्तो हुन्छ होला। हेरम् है त।
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कास
धरान, पुस २४ - श्री ५ युवराजाधिराज पारस युवराज्ञी हिमानीसाथ मोटरसाइकलमा शनिबार धरान सवारी भएको छ ।

अपराह्न ४ बजे युवराज दम्पतीबाट छाताचोक, भानुचोक, लक्ष्मीसडकलगायत स्थान मोटरसाइकलमा यात्रा गरिबक्सेको थियो । करिब १५ मिनेटको अवलोकनपछि मौसुफहरू झापाको दमक दरबार फिर्ता होइबक्सेको सुरक्ष्ँा स्रोतले जनाएको छ । मौसुफहरू पुस १४ देखि त्यहा" होइबक्सन्छ ।
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How about this?
धरान, पुस २४ - कसैलाई मतलब भा कुरा त हेन, पारस हिमानीसाथ मोटरसाइकलमा शनिबार धरान आएको छ ।

अपराह्न ४ बजे ती दम्पतीबहरु छाताचोक, भानुचोक, लक्ष्मीसडकलगायत स्थान मोटरसाइकलमा ओभर स्पिडमा कुदेका थियो । करिब १५ मिनेटको कुदेपछि तिनीहरू झापाको दमक दरबार लागेको कुरा सुरक्षा स्रोतले जनाएको छ । तिनीहरू पुस १४ देखि त्यहाँ छन् । भरे गाँजा तान्ने योजना छ। दमक वरिपरिका कहाँ के हुन्छ कसले मार खान्छ ठेगान नभएकोले सबैजना साबधान रहनुहोला।

Pade & Pushkar:

It is funny. 'cause you failed to catch the big dog. Big dog is barking again- Girja again making trouble for soja janta.

Pade: At least paras is doing to one person here and there. But big dogs are looting the whoel country--25 million nepali are suffering. Haven't you seen enough. One of the reason we are in such a shithole is because of typical thinking. No matter what they do, we still accept them as a leaders.

Wake up dude.....

I agree with you KuleKhane... Why after Paras? What has he done to the country compared to most of the leaders in Nepal???
He rides his MOtorbike so what? it is only 12 grand anyone can get it and take it to nepal, I don't think so there is any ristrictions from the palace not to bring in any HD from USA, and besides who said HD are fast (DAdaGIRI ji HD are the slowest bikes on the roads of USA, these bikes are meant for crusin' not speeding, Buell is another brand made my HD, now these are streetbikes-no offense), and why do we pray for him to die, why not pray he becomes like Dipendra sarkar atleast from the outside, who cares how he acts in his palace.
I don't think paras's death is the solution, that will be the root of all problems in nepal.
I know most of you who write here have hatred for the Chettri King, like somewhere up Swati Thapa said that igp was thapa magar, I think he is Chettri Thapa, when I look and read what you guys write sometimes, I feel like the time has come when ALL CHEETRIS SHOULD UNITE .... but that will cause more problems and death in the country, which none of us wants. Brothers and Sisters, we realy clinse our politicians not the royal's, it was the politicians who brought unstability in the country not the King, Maybe if we talk about GP giving up politics or going sanyas, maybe our country will come to peace. Who in the right mind complains about security check, they should be glad they are being taken care of (would John Kerry scream foul play if his plane is searched for security reason saying " BUSH is doing all this to humilate me"). You think you have become american's than think like one, Paras is a small fish in the pond, not even king can do anything to the country, it is the Politicans who have to compormise and unite and try to talk about the country and it's health not the health of the party and oneself, Great leaders are rembered for what they gave up, not what they have accumulated.

Thank you Gorkhay (no offense bro), sounds cool when you say gorkhay (you know what I am saying),at least you are talking some sense here.

Chikne dadagiri, ta muji jealous type ko thaha bhayo. Yeso tero muji lekhai herda, ta muji lay panee harley davidson chadna payo muji chodchas??. All you motherf&*Kers are type of people who crave for money/fame/power and finest things in life but what you do is; yap yap yap...at places like sajha and where not...muji like freedom of speech ko hawa lagya cha...chikne. Why don't you bring your f*(Kface in Kathmandu in front of durbarmarg and say the same thing what you typed from the comfort of your sofa (made is usa) and your centrally heated apartment (made in amrika) apartment built by $2/hour chicos and patos.

eh muji dadagiri, chikne dada hoina giri chahee holas muji jogi ko luga laga ja chikne.

None taken I am a Gorkhey for real........... people who know me will tell you....

I favour the kingship because that is the only straw that is keeping us as NEPALI..........
Please don't talk about breaking up nepal, we will be left to go nowhere,
then all these indian type politicians in nepal will surely sell nepal to india...


Bro, none of these people who blabber have the guts to speak that loud alone on the road let alone infront of the palace, only enmasse when there are 1000's of people and they know they are safe.

I only wish if nepali people realized it is the politicians who are breaking up the country not the king....(imagine why would the king want to mess up his own country? does he have another country to go and live?? and even if he leaves nepal who is going to give him power like that???)

bro, tyai ta bhanya. yo chikne maobadi ko bahan haroo amrika ma basay pachee ta muji hami lai hijada bhanna khojcha bro. yo chikne neta haroo sab muji nepal bechayra swiss bank ko khata ma paisa jamma garchan anee tyo muji baburam ko chori jasto english ko lad00 (england) ma baschan. neta lai ta hami jasto janata ko gula matlab, afno chak bachaucha anee tap muji haroo. Bush lai na hayrana bro, iraq ko chak hanna gayako bro, afnai chak ma pharkayra lagyo.

Ho kee hoina...... HO HO..

peace bro ;)

"I only wish if nepali people realized it is the politicians who are breaking up the country not the king....(imagine why would the king want to mess up his own country? --------------> I almost wholeheartedly agree with your statement, but having said that, I firmly believe, royalities are to be blamed equally. I agree moda fawka netas haru lai pani line ma rakhera goli thoke ni kehi paap hundaina. Tara Janta ko paisa bata bachera, chusera arko side ma maha manav jastai basne, tanna paisa bhayera ni afno paisa le suko kehi nagarne, ulta afno karodau pati relatives lai birami bhayo bhanera HAMRO paisa karodau ma dine, 30-40 karod usko mahal ko rekh dekh ko lagi HAMRO paisa line, samayemai, Maoist and NEta haru lai ek dui thyak nalagune... ani Jatha gyeane and paras, khali purkha ko naam bata bhagwaan jastai darja ra kaam bhane likha jastai garne bhayeko le... duita bau chora pani ustai dyaang ko mula ho.

"I favour the kingship because that is the only straw that is keeping us as NEPALI..........
Please don't talk about breaking up nepal, we will be left to go nowhere,
then all these indian type politicians in nepal will surely sell nepal to india... "
-------> true chor neta haru le bechana ni berr lagdaina... hami nepali haru lai yeta tira KHAI cha arko tira PAIRO gako cha. Tara yo m88i royal haru le ke nai napyo ra... m**i deuta jastai baseko cha.. tato na charo... janta mareko marei cha. symbolic monarchy samma ashi huncha. Tyo muji deuta jasto chai chahindaina.
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"Bro, none of these people who blabber have the guts to speak that loud alone on the road let alone infront of the palace, only enmasse when there are 1000's of people and they know they are safe. "

And

"Why don't you bring your f*(Kface in Kathmandu in front of durbarmarg and say the same thing what you typed from the comfort of your sofa (made is usa) and your centrally heated apartment (made in amrika) apartment built by $2/hour chicos and patos. "

-------------> I understand ur sentiments but i believe there is difference betn " being brave and being stupid". Durbar marg ma gayera chichyera jasari mukh sukh chadna gyane and paras ko murkhata ho.. tyasari maobadi ko thauma gayera uni harulai tyasari mukh chadna ni murkhata ho... thokdincha muji goli.. ke kaam... jasle jaha sakcha tyai bhancha. Ra malai lagdaina koi le tya gayera bhanchha bhanera... yedi koi cha bhane.. either he is high or EXTREMELY courageous or EXTREMELY stupid.

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I say, Neta haru ra bau chora subai lai thokde pani huncha.

Neta haru ko Ramayan lekhna thalyo bhane ahile yaha maha kabye huncha.. sab ekse ek cha... tyo m**i jatha haru lai pani ratpark ma jaha uni haru tod fod garera neta hunchan.. tyai rakhera sisnu pani le hanera.. blade le katera.. nun khorsani halnu parcha.. ani tanna torture pachi chaak ko dulo ma goli thoknu parcha.. and justice will be served. Gyane and paras m**i haru le pani ke nai garyo.. jatha haru Magne ta ho... tini haru lai pani dai haru bhayekai thauma pathauna parcha.. nepali ko ragta chuseko cha.

But we should not forget that just coz Neta haru chora , daka, kukur cha bhanera, gyane and paras ko dosh and kukur pana pani andekha garna mildaina. After all they have bigger or atleast equal responsibility (since they control, directly or indirectly.. much of the powerful position along with NETA haru). Just coz one group ( NETA haru) is Bigger EVIl, we can not forget another huge Evil (Paras and gyane) as well. Maoist ko ta kura nagarau... sochna ni maan lagdaina.. kasto torture dinu paye huncha bhanera.

(Pisses me off when i think of this NETAZ, So called Protector aka royals, and R**i ko chora haru Maoist. )

Aru kura tyastai ho.... maile bhannu khojeko.. sabai dosi chan.. koi alik badi koi alik kaam... sabai ko samaye aucha... ans dinu.. herdau jau ke huncha... .

Lu ta dherai lamo bhayo... kura.. and yeah.. manepalihokya... ma ni chadchu harley payeta.. tara tyo jatha ko harley ko paisa bata katti bhoka naga le khana kapada pauthe (assuming its a govt. money that he bought it from.. ke asuming jatha magne le hamro paisa le nai kineko ho nai ho)... malai lagdaina ki tyasko janta ko paisa ma ATTI NAI mooj garne haak cha. esp hajaurau bhoka nagga janta bhayeko deh ma.

tyi ho aba
IndisGUise:)

P.S: khai random ma keke lekhiyo.. yeta uti galti le mistake bhaye mafi pau, artha ko anartha na nikalau.. Jai Nepal)

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I frequently find myself comparing our royalties to those of other nations, namely that of United Kingdom.

Blue bloods are blue bloods, anywhere, but let's take British Royal Family. Despite shananigans within the family, Prince Charles has been a model prince. (I was reading in Keshab Paudel's article above, "globally renowned conservationist himself, King Gyanendra".... I wonder I should take that line as a satire or should I just laugh at it, for Gyanendra's contribution, if one can call it contribution, comes nowhere close to Charles's, but I digress).

Prince William is shaping to be a good heir as well. Though it might just be a PR event, the video of him cleaning toilets and doing social work in South America made me think, now, this is a guy who is firmly grounded and will make a good king someday. Paras, on the other hand, is the opposite side of the spectrum.

Even if we are to take a more conservative royal family of Japan whose feudalistic past is more recent, the comparision with our royalties brings tears to my eyes. During American Occupation of Japan immediately after WWII, when Emperor Hirohito went to see General Douglas McArthur, his motorcade stopped on the road. Why? Because the traffic light had turned red. This was a subtle, yet very powerful, sign to his subjects that rule of law reigns supreme in modern Japan. Imagine that happening in Kathmandu.

I like Thai food and everytime I go to a Thai restaurant, I am awed by the love Thai people have for their King. Every, any, Thai restaurant has an altar with their King's picture. He must be a great king to have deserved so much respect, not out of fear but out of genuine love. And I wonder about our own.....

Let's look at our own neighbor, Bhutan. Now I have to admit I know little about their royalties, but I was again awed when I read in the Economist (Dec 18th 2004 issue) that the Bhutanese King has, at his own accord, decided to opt for constitutional monarchy. This January, he is tourning his country, drumming up support for a new constitution - a document that will take away much of his power. "...(the king) was worried that future kings might not be as good and wise as he. So he wanted the people to rule themselves." Compare this with what the Economist had to say about Nepal's king (Dec 4th 2004 issue): "despotic monarch of a failing state."

There's a lot to think about.

Riten,

There is a strong similarity between Gyanendra and the King of Swaziland, King Mswati III .

HERE ARE THREE EXAMPLES:



1) Anger over Swazi king's birthday

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3642067.stm

King Mswati III: Criticised for extravagance
A huge party to mark the Swaziland king's 36th birthday has been criticised as a big waste of money.
On Monday, 10,000 guests gathered in the national football stadium for the event hosted by Africa's last absolute monarch, King Mswati III.

Critics say the country, ravaged by Aids and unemployment, could ill afford the estimated $600,000 cost of the do.

Opposition leader Mario Masuku, told the BBC he thought the government should have been more sensitive.


"The king could have had a private party of his own. The money comes from the tax payer," said the president of the banned Pudemo party.

The day was a public holiday and the event was shown live on national television for those unable to attend the party.

"Everybody has the right to utilise his own hard-earned resources for his enjoyment," he told the Network Africa programme.

"However, the people of Swaziland can hardly afford a birthday party that costs so much," he said.

In recent months, King Mswati III has been heavily criticised for requesting large sums of public money to pay for new palaces and a personal jet.


2) Swazi king splashes on luxury car

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4091271.stm

King Mswati is one of an elite few who can afford the Maybach
Swaziland's King Mswati has bought a $500,000 (?260,000) luxury car.
Reports of the absolute monarch's latest purchase contrast with accounts of suffering in Swaziland, which has the highest Aids rate in the world.

The Maybach car has a television, DVD player, 21-speaker surround-sound system, fridge, cordless telephone and sterling silver champagne flutes.

The 36-year-old king frequently hits the headlines with stories about his lavish lifestyle.

In April this year, 10,000 guests celebrated his 36th birthday at an event estimated to have cost $600,000, prompting widespread criticism from those who said the country could ill-afford to host such an event.

Swaziland's unemployment rate stands at 40% while almost 70% of the country's one-million population live on an average daily income of $1 or less.

About one third of all Swaziland's people rely on food aid for survival.

Elite group

"We feel great that the king of Swaziland has chosen our product, this shows that our product has arrived. This kind of car is the super high end of the luxury segment," DaimlerChrysler South Africa's spokesperson Fanyana Shiburi told the Times of Swaziland.


Luxurious inside and out... the Maybach has a fridge, DVD player and silver champagne flutes
"Our customers are exclusive people, the super-rich, the kings and queens, oil-rich countries, North Africans and massive lottery winners," he added.

Just four other people in Southern Africa own DaimlerChrysler's flagship Maybach 62, the newspaper said.

The other three Maybach 62 owners in the region are South African business tycoons Cyril Ramaphosa, Tokyo Sexwale and Patrice Motsepe.

"It is unfortunate the king's government is unable to prioritize and do things that will save the nation, as opposed to the interests of the monarch and his family," said Nomthetho Simelane from the University of Swaziland.

In a country where nearly 40% of adults are HIV positive, the king is also criticised for having 11 wives and two fiancees.

In recent years, he has asked parliament for $15m to build a palace for each of his spouses and $45m to buy a royal jet.

Street protests led to him abandoning the plans to buy a luxury jet.

3) Swazi king 'forces out speaker'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3502310.stm

Mswati III has been criticised for his lavish spending
The speaker of Swaziland's parliament says he has been forced to resign by the ruler of the drought-hit country.
No official reason has been given for the move. However King Mswati had refused to open parliament until Marwick Khumalo quit.

Mr Khumalo said that he was being "victimised for something he did 25 years ago," but did not elaborate.

He also suspected royal insiders sought to oust him because he had opposed attempts to buy the king a private jet.

Two years ago, the normally docile parliament rejected a request to buy a $45m royal jet.

After years of failed rains, a quarter of the 1.1m population need food aid. Swaziland also has one of the world's highest rates of HIV infection - 33%.

"I was called to the royal residence, and formally told that the king had instructed that I should resign," Mr Khumalo was quoted as telling a special parliamentary session late on Wednesday.

He later told the French news agency AFP: "Even now, it is feared that I will overwhelm the new parliament with my 'unpopular political influence', a notion I do not subscribe to."

Many wives

Africa's last absolute monarch is no stranger to controversy.

In January, the Times of Swaziland reported that King Mswati asked for $15m - almost as much as the 2002 health budget - to build a palace for each of his 11 wives.

He chooses a new wife each year at the annual reed dance.

In 2002, the mother of his latest bride took some of his aides to court, accusing them of abducting her daughter.

pade_rani_no_1, naam chahee rani no 1 and kura chahee kina tyasto nee, raja bhayteeyana kee kya ho. kee chahee raja sanga maybach 62/63/64/65 chaina jasto cha nee. sab bhanda haas uthya chahee:

>> He chooses a new wife each year at the annual reed dance.

moro kookoor nai raicha, koon din dekhi kera khojna thalcha..

I know most of you who write here have hatred for the Chettri King, like somewhere up Swati Thapa said that igp was thapa magar, I think he is Chettri Thapa, when I look and read what you guys write sometimes, I feel like the time has come when ALL CHEETRIS SHOULD UNITE
Rear properly whom i am refering as a magar.

THAPADOM
The day of the Thapa has returned.
MANJUSHREE THAPA


Chief of Army Staff, Pyar Jung Thapa, the Armed Police Force chief Sahabir Thapa, and Nepal Police chief, Shyam Bhakta Thapa.
Till last week the Thapas merely headed only the Royal Nepal Army (Pyar Jung Thapa), the Nepal Police (Shyam Bhakta Thapa) and the Armed Police Force (Sahabir Thapa, who is of Magar origin unlike the others, all Chettri Thapas).
Pl

oops its read not rear

swaati jee,

kathmandu ma ghar kaha paryo?? rocks tira bhaytoona eso milcha bhanay?

;)

when I look and read what you guys write sometimes, I feel like the time has come when ALL CHEETRIS SHOULD UNITE .... but that will cause more problems and death in the country, which none of us wants.

Aren't Chettris are so called elite ppl of nepal? Weren't chettris who were ruling nepal? Stop bashing Bahuns. Why only Bahun to be blamed. Don't we all nepali pracitce sychophancy and nepotism? Or its only bahuns are doing and none of us doing so? Nijamati karmachari ke sabbai bahun matrai chan ta? chettri, newar, grg, mgr, rai , tharu and madhishe pani chan ni hoina ta? Everybody practice this so stop pin pointing some designated grps. AS somewhere in this Sajha ISO. Freak bro has said that we have tendency to pin others for the failure. Its so interesting to see that the ideals for which ppl are willing to be mobilised and die for in street demonstration dp not appears as soon as they enter the voting booth. The very same ppl who carries those demonstrartion will vote for ppl who promise them clean drinking water ans road to their ghar dailio.
AS if clean drinking water and road comes to ur ghar dailo meets revolution? Rather it shows that different motivation coming into play at different times. This is also sort of sychophancy hoina ta.

ALL CHEETRIS SHOULD UNITE .... but that will cause more problems and death in the country, which none of us wants
as for this what u trying to say that u can just come ans succumb us. dude timi kun duniya ma chau. RNA ke chettri dominant chaina ra. Jaabo euta gaunko kisan, dhakre justa peasent le baneko rag tag maobaadi lai thik parna sakeko chaina so phurti nagaram. I know u will start bashing me and in very cheap and susto sadake bhase le. Pour ur all venom. he he he