a +2 graduate comes to the States, finishes undergrad and gradschool (if any), then starts OPT, extends OPT, then starts working on H1B if possible, if not applies for asylum. this is the route a typical college student seems to follow based on my perception of the threads here on sajha. but why? why are people so much obssessed with america and fear having to return back to Nepal? you guys might call me "bado aayo deshbhakta", "nautanki" and so on but think carefully, the sole purpose of you coming to the States is to gain education and go back to Nepal. khali paisa ra sukha ko matra pachhi lagera bhayena. america chhirepachhi nepal farkina chahi marejo jasto garne, ani sajhama basera netaharule desh bigare, ghus khayera desh garib banaye, historical arms/ammunitions indialai beche, desh pani bechna ber chhaina, etc jasta kura garne? suhayena! 

yesto deshko barema chaso rakhne manchheharu ta nepal farkera kaam garnuparchha ni! sabai kura matra garne bhayera kehi kaam nabhayeko ho. tai raani, mai raani kasle bharchha kuwako paani bhaneko jasto bhayo ni yo ta! aafule nagare ni hunchha, aru chhan garne bhanne sochai liyera bhayena. yaha padhna aayeka/kaam garna aayeka manchheharu sadhai yahako dollar ra sukha-subidhama naharaai aafno padhai/kaam sakera nepal farkera tyahi aafno sip lagaye kaso hola?

la sajhaites ho, dhamadham comment hanna thale hunchha.
FYI: fohori sabda, jaat-paat, tarai-pahad, etc jasta kura chahi taadhai rakham hola.

jai nepal

 यो धागो मा त विचार पस्कने कुरै भएन नि ...आफु नि उही डयांग को मुला न परियो !!!!!

Dr. saap, mero pani samasya tyahi chha. Maile pani neta haru lai khub gali gare sarape tara kehi kam chhaina. Kahile kahi lagchha Nepal gayera mantri bannu parla. Pradhan mantri bannu parla kehi garna sakiyela ki. Tara ... ma kahile party ko sadsya banne.. kahile kendri sadasya banne, kahile party  ko kendriya neta banne adhchhya banne ani balla mantri. Yo sab sochda kheri malai aant nai ayena. Tyasaile ma bidesh ma nai chhu.  Hami goru haau jata jata hariyo ghans bhitinchha tyatai janchhau.

खोई त देशभत्तीमा चुर्लुम्म डुबेका, धोती गीत सून्दानी देशद्रोह हून्छ भन्ने ठान्ने नेपाल आमाका नैतिकवान सपूतहरु कता गए??  स्वास्नीका फरियाभीत्र मुख लुकाउन पर्यो होइन गेडे हो ??

जहाँ सुख ,शान्ती  पाउछ ,मान्छे त्यही बस्न चाहन्छ |अमेरिका ग्रिन कार्द परेर न् आउने नेपाली पनि धेरै छन |
उनिहरुलाई नेपाल मै अमेरिका जस्तो फ्यासिलिती छ् | एउता कुरा के भने अमेरिकि आउने सबै नेपाली ले देश लाई माया मारेर आएका हैनन ,नेपाल बस्ने सबै नेपाली ले पनि देश लाई माया गर्दैनन |
एक चोटि अमेरिका आएपछी बाल ,बच्चा हुनेहारु आफ्नो बच्चा पढाउने नाउ मा फसेका छन |

 Dr. kancho.

tai khub jaane bhayes...tai farkina ta nepal...

taile nai bhane jasto..america maa basna man garne nepali haru dherai chan, I agree. tara america maa settle huna try garyo bhandai maa nepal ko raamro chitaunai hunna bhanne k cha ra.... yehin settle down bhayera pani ta Nepal ra Nepali ko heet hune kaam garna sakincha. nepal nai jaanu parcha bhanne ta chaina ni.

नेपालमा ९ रुप्पे मा ६ बोतल बियर पाइदैन नि त सोम

 free sex

  jangali manab: aba aafu ni uhi dyangko mula na pariyo bhanne jamana gaye, arule tyastai garchhan maile garda k farak parchha ra bhanera panchhinu ramro excuse hoina.

bhimesh: kehi ramro garna politician nai hunuparchha bhanne chhaina bro, usai pani politician ko image yeti girisakyo ki nepalma, politician nabhai kehi garyo bhane baru arule sahayog garlan

fat beast: nice one bro, fariya bhitra mukh haha, fariya ta lagaudainan hola, aniways crotch ma chahi mukh lukauna puge bhanda atyukti nahola

prabhat:bro, sadhai arule banaidiyeko facility ma katti ramauchhau? katinjel moj garchhau? huna ta timile bhane jastai manchhe-manchhema bhar parchha, nepalmai sukha lagne haru yaha aaune opportunity paye pani aaudainan, aru timi/hami jasta nepalma jati bhayepani americako sukha ra dollar matra dekhchhau. ani chhora-chhori padhaune kura, nepalma ni dherai ramra institutions chhan, khai haamile ni tyahi padheko ho, tyahakai padhaile khaira harusanga compete garna sakne banayo kyare!

ritthe: hasauchhau bro...beer ko tyasto tirkha chha bhane nepal gayera beerkai business gara na, ani ta bihanai beer, belukai beer! aafnai bhayepachhi jati ghutkyae ni bhaigo ni. btw, palla ghare sahiliko bhatti ni kamm chhaina hai, just an alternative

maekbalak: balak bandhu, timilai condom ta ramrosanga lagauna aauchha? bado aayeu free sex ko kura gardai! tyastai ho bhane nepalma rantapark, thamel ko naam ta sunekai chhau hola? tyata gayeu bhane timro kaam banchha.

time pass: i was looking for someone like your's comment. maile americama settle huna khojne nepaliharule nepalko ramro chitayenan bhaneko chhaina. maile bhaneko k bhane yaha basera timi j jati garchhau ni tyo effort nepalma lagaune ho bhane ajha ramro hunthyo! america basera nepalko heet hune kaam garna sakinchha bhaneu, sahi ho. garna sakinchha, tara financial heet matra garna sakchhau timi, yedi kanjus chhainau bhane. badhi gareu bhane nepalma paisa pathauchhau, timro family ko heet hunchha tyasle. 2-4 k dollars donate garchhau hola orphanage, schools ,etc lai, and that's all good. for instance, say you are a chemical engineer. if you go back use what you have learnd, that will create much bigger impact than your few ks you donate from here. arule garenan bhanera complain garna sajilo chha, aafu gari hera ani manchhu timilai. natra timi ani timro ghamanda khiya lageko tin ko batta barabar ni gandina ma! 
malai khoob janne bhais, tai farki bhaneu. farkinchhu tara pahila padhai sakna deu ani 2-4 barsa kaam garera halka dollar kamaune ho (so that i can establish my work back home as there is no one esle doing it currently) ani farkine nepal. yaha basera yesto bhayena, tyasto bhayena bhanera dherai complain gariyo. nepalma scope chhaina, tyaha gayera garne k bhanera bhayena, aba aafai suru garne.! sabai jana arule suru garos, kaam garne environment banos, tyatinjel yahi basera dollar kamau, ani deshko stithi sudhrechha bhane nepal farkiula bhanera basyo bhane kahilai unnati hune wala chhaina. be the change you want to see in the world bhanchhan ni, ho tyastai ho k!

- DrKanchho

Dr. Kancho:

Hats off to your topic which everyone of us should ponder once in a while. But would you only suggest educated people to return ? How about working here and supporting people back your country through NGOs donations and moral support, gathering nepali brothers and sisters and raising funds for development projects in Nepal, and even helping and getting involved in INGOs such as Himalanchal Foundation / Tiny Hands International to stop women trafficking in Nepal? Do you think we only have to go back after studies to show our concern to Nepal ? I have been preaching this idea of living here but at the same time helping and giving back to your country as much as one can to all my friends here since last few years. One does not really have to return without any interest of going back to show your love and concern to Nepal. Thats why we have Non-Residents  Nepalese organizations haina ra through which we can give back to Nepal ??

People my idea is "Live here and give back as much as possible. That is enough to show your love and concern to our motherland Nepal. You are not in compulsion to go back in pressure. If you think and are comitted to give back and help from here, you are as much as original  Nepali as those ones bcak home"

Again hats off to your topic for reminding us, i hope i didn't offend you. If some peole in Sajha wants to debate on it, i would be happy to join.   

Been there done that... Nepal farkera 3 years maa maakhaa pani marna sakina ra farke. If you are from a rich family, it makes sense for you to go back. But for someone like me who has renounced inheritence, I am not going back until I retire... As others pointed, you can contribute more to the country, if you really care about it, regardless of where you live...

 interesting

 "malai khoob janne bhais, tai farki bhaneu. farkinchhu tara pahila padhai sakna deu ani 2-4 barsa kaam garera halka dollar kamaune ho (so that i can establish my work back home as there is no one esle doing it currently) ani farkine nepal."

Hami pani sabai yahi garna ta baseka chau ni dr saheb.. padhai siddiyo, aba 5-6 barsa yahi basera paisa kamau bhanera. tara paisa jamma nai hudaina, parena fasaad? desh ko lagi bhanera kalle jogairakhne?

Bro, nepal janu cha bhane right after graduation or maybe after OPT jane, H1B ko chakkar ma paryau bhane, yahi gharjam garchau. Aba ko 5 barsa ma malai bheta ani aafno plan bhana, ma pani nepal bata aayeko 2-4 barsa nepal gayera pradhanmantri nai hunchu jasto garthe, tara aba Greencard ko line ma, kaile palo aaucha bhanera kuryo basyo.

Great topic...Maile pani Dr. Saab le jasto naschoeko hoina ...ra time_pass le bhaneko kura pani manan nagareko hoina....tara kura k hudo recha bhane...kura garna lai sajilo hudo recha...tara jaba afulai pardo recha kura jhanai jatil hundo recha....graduate pani bhaiyo..kam pani paiyo aba nepal jana lai malai k le rokyo ta? Ma pani janchu bhanera socheko ho. Tara kura aayo gaye pachi k garne? Business?...business garera k garne Imported Saman bechera 2 paisa kamaune tyo ani tehi 2 paisa le imported saman kinne....tesko lagi ma Nepal gairakhnu parcha ra? Feri 2 paisa bhanda besi kamayo bhane donation(chanda..party lai gunda lai...etc) dinu parne kasto garo ho kura? Hoina ni ta ali productive business garchu ni ta bhanyo...kura aayo energy(electricity, petrol)...Dubai chaina? Ali thulo project like Hydro power ko baruma sochu bhane....tetro kura lai sochna na mero dimag le sakcha...na ma sanga paisa nai cha. Tyo upaya pani bhayena? Aba jagir khane? kati paisa kamaucha jagir khayera nepal ma? Ani mahangi kati cha? Do you think we can balance that? (We can...tara sarai nai garo huncha). Rajniti ta na mero bau baje le gare na maile nai garna sakchu...khai ta malai alternative?

Tesaile maile decision gare...jahile samma milcha yehi baschu....sakeko sahayog yehi bata nepal ko lagi garchu? Tara mile samma chai yehi baschu(Tara yaha basna pani kaha sajilo cha ra...visa ko tension...status ko tension..jagir ko tension...khai j gare pani tension sakiyela jasto chaina )

If you are smart enought with great vision or if you are from rich family..it make sense to go to Nepal. Tara ma jasto dherai dimag pani nabhako paisa pani nabhako lai america nai thik cha jasto lagyo malai chai .


Tara pani Dr. Saab ko prayas saraniya cha... Keep it up.

i agree to what you guys are saying i.e. stay here and aid home but my main point is just economic support from here ain't enough. it's good, no dobut about that and yes, it helps make Nepal rich but the key thing is it's not going to make Nepal prosperous. we keep on sending dollar back home but is the money being spent at what you wanted it to be spent? is it as effective as you wanted it to be? and for how long will you keep on sending money? just money is not going to help and that's my main point. and i'm not saying just to students, it applies to all - people who come to the States either for studies, work, or just even a vacation and then lose their way back home.
for instance, you work here day and night, serving the States and in return you get money which you spend for yourself and your family and donate if you are generous. what if you go back home and work there? you'll earn less, no doubt about that but you are serving Nepal, making people's lives easier back home. and that's what i think is really important if you really want to see Nepal develop. you can't hope to see Nepal progressing by donating dollars, you actually have to do the dirty work because that's much more effective.

aba kuro aayo gayera suru kasari garne, paisa chhaina, etc. dhani baauko chhora bhayera aat aayeko ho malai, paisa nahunele kehi garna sakdaina, etc. i'm no different than any of you. and i haven't received a penny from my parents since the day i left home and i assume neither have you. my parents are similar as yours - typical farmers who have hardly any savings left after feeding themselves aruond the year, so i don't expect any support from them, instead i'll be obliged to support them which i will.

engineers here get better training and hands on experience than those back home, same with doctors, accountants, executives, and so forth. when (not if, when) we use what we have been trained for so long in the states in conjunction to the local knowledge of colleagues back home, the results will be surprising.
i cam here with nothing, i'm getting a good education, will go back and work in Nepal although I'll easily make over $100k/yr once i'm done with my studies.
and to dissident, yes I'll do H1B and all that stuff, but won't stay here forever, I stay until i make like $100-200k which will be enough for me to establish my work in Nepal. i guess you know how hard it is to get money when you are starting something that has never been done before.

glad to know that a lot of people are aiding home from here but that just isn't enough. it's hard to let go of a good life here, and it's even harder to struggle with the inadequacies back home but hey the people back home are making their lives through it. if they can, so can we. and the biggest thing is more you run from those inadequacies, more it grows, let alone Nepal being developed.

jai Nepal

Dr. Saab ...timro stage ma hamile pani tehi socheko...H1B payepachi few yrs kam garchu ani Nepal janchu....tara timro need time anusar change huncha...H1B payepachi timilai greencard chaincha...timro 100-200K aaunu bhanda pahile timro Greencard aaucha...timro Greencard aayepachi timi ghar kinchau...bihe garchau....ani timi mortgage tirna thalchau...ani timi sanga kahile pani paisa hunna...timi sachikai nepal jane ho bhane OPT sakera jau padai pani huncha practice pani huncha...Hoina bhane maile bhaneko jastai bhanna matrai sajilo huncha arko stage ma pugepachi thaha pauchau timile pahile boleko ra ahile ko kura ma kati pharak huncha bhanera.

Timro kalyan hos....chaheko pura hos....time sanga man pariwartan nahos

डा. साप तिर लक्षित त होइन तर म पनि अन्डरग्राडमा हुँदा हामीले फर्केर देश सेवा गर्नु पर्छ भनेर खोक्ने दुई जनाले म भन्दा पहिले नै स्ट्याटस बनाएको कुरा जानकारी गराउन चाहन्छु|

You haven't seen the bigger picture have you?? I'll let you figure out yourself. Good luck into the future.

Bigger picture? I have seen the whole specrum... Those who preach, those who preach and breach, those who listen, those who think they have seen the bigger picture, those who are trying to see the bigger picture... Everything my friend.

Bro Som, mailay Kanchhoo lie bhaneko ho. Not you......We both are in same side...WTF??