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chimusichi
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Posted on 04-25-10 10:04
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One day we are dead so Why we are/were created , what is the reason behind creating human beings ? Is it true that We are made in God's image ? It it true God Created the earth, the sun, the stars and the universe?Do you know why other species are created ? DO you believe that there should be a reason based on human logic for every creation?What you say people , personally?
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Posted on 04-25-10 10:50
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Personally???.... god didn't create human, human created human... you, me and all of us are created by human... and myself i hope to create few human!! logic behind the creation? well initially it starts with sexual desire but during the time of human creation and after creation there comes so many things, motherhood, childhood, fatherhood, love, dynasty, race, humanity blah blah blah
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Posted on 04-25-10 11:41
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heres ur answer AC: Hello, I'm Alex Collier. In the last 31 years I have been given so much information, that I would ask you to write down your questions, otherwise it may not be brought up. There are some positive aspects to the information, and there is some information that is not very positive. There is absolutely nothing we cannot resolve, if we stick together. What I mean by that is that we don't turn on each other. To have us turn on each other is definitely something that they are trying to get us to do - to divide us. The problems in the world that we have on the government level are just a symptom of a much bigger problem. I believe it was Bill Cooper, much to his credit, who said several years ago - when you put the ET's in the middle of this thing, it absolutely makes sense. He's absolutely right. I am going to be presenting the Andromedan perspective as to what is going on, who we are, and some material about our past history They have comments about all of our history.
I have been a contactee for 31 years. I has not been consistent for 31 years, but it has been consistent since 1985. The first contact was in the upper peninsula of Michigan in a place called Woodstock. In 1964 I was on a family picnic. I went out to play with cousins, and I laid on the grass. The next thing I remember is that it was night time. They could not find me. I had missing time. I did not remember anything until age 14. We went back to the area where I had been sleeping. My body print was there. My mom, dad and a Michigan State Trooper swore up and down that they had looked for me. I wasn't there. So, it was one of those dilemma's. At age 14, I went to bed on a normal August night. I woke up and found myself on a platform. There were two men standing over me, a short one and a very tall one. They were both very handsome. On a soul-level, I had absolute recognition of who they were. The tall one, Morenae, had light blue skin. Vissaeus, the shorter one, was much older, and his skin was whitish, having lost most of the blue pigmentation.
The Andromedans are a very very old race. Apparently, all of the human race comes from Lyrae. There is a lot of information about this. Billy Meier also talks about it. The human race did not originally exist in Lyrae - it came from some other galaxy but first began to evolve in our galaxy in the Lyran system. According to the Andromedans, there are over 135 billion human beings in the 8 galaxies closest to ours. Now, there are also other races out there. Some of these races have had a lot of conflicts with the human race, and that conflict continues. But, there are things that are happening that will hopefully alleviate that problem. It comes down to philosophies, more than anything else.
The Andromedans are a telepathic race. Morenae, over the last ten years, has learned to use his vocal chords. The reason that the newsletter here is called Letters From Andromeda, is because the first words that Morenae said to me when I went on board one time were "another letter". He was trying to convey the idea of "meeting", and had been trying to search for the word. The Andromedans care really deeply about what is going on, and a lot of it apparently has to do with who we are as souls, who we are genetically, and it also has to do with the future - a future in which we will probably be in other physical forms. We're talking about the future between now and 357 years from now. Back to Contents Our Universe is a Hologram: To us, some may say "that doesn't matter, I won't be here." But as far as other extraterrestrial races are concerned, they will be here. Many of them live from an average of 1,000 to 1,500 years. The Andromedans live to an average of 2,007 years. The "years" that I am going to be giving you as a measure of time are linear - it's the only way I can give it to you. They do not look at time the same way we do. Just keep that in mind. They say that our universe, which consists of everything that we do and don't know about, is a 21 trillion year-old hologram. That's what they say. They say that all the matter that is in our universe came out of black holes. Under every galaxy, they say there is a black hole from whence everything came. How they have described it is that there was a universe that was evolving (when they mean evolve, they mean that the frequency of that universe continues to evolve), and as the universe evolved, those energies that did not want to evolve or were holding themselves back because they were full of fear started to "gain weight," so to speak. These energies, which include consciousness, formed "sacks", which got "heavier". As the universe raises in frequency (colour and sound), the pockets of resistance break and explode out . This scenario is apparently what is beginning to happen now in our universe, 21 trillion years after its creation. Everything in our universe, including us, came from a black hole. The Andromedans say there is no age to us. We truly are infinite. You can take that any way you want. According to Vissaeus and Morenae, on March 23rd of 1994 a specific color and sound frequency began to emanate from all the black holes in the known universe. In terms of their science, which goes back along way, this is the first time this has ever happened. What this energy and frequency is doing is that it is creating a holographic impression throughout all dimensional levels, of which they say there are eleven creational densities. This new holographic impression has become a 12th density. They say that this new holographic impression has one frequency - that it does not carry a duality within it. What this frequency is doing is that it is pulling up all the dimensional levels below it. They say that by December 2013, third density as we know it here will cease to exist - it is imploding in on itself as everything is being drawn up. Those on the 11th are going to 12th. We are supposed to go to 4th and then to 5th density. From the Andromedan perspective, 4th density is a consciousness. It is where an entire race is telepathic with each other, they are aware of each other, they feel each other - they are of one mind, separate individuals but still one. Fifth density is where we would be considered from the third density as being light. They say that this is what is going to happen to us, no later than 2013, based on their science. Do I know if this is right? I will know when you know, but they have not been wrong yet. Now, there are individual consciousness' which have appeared in this 12th density holographic consciousness. They apparently are like nothing that has ever been seen before. The Andromedans don't know who they are, what they are, and don't know even how to describe them. But, apparently these 12th dimensional beings have the capability to gaze down through all of the dimensions and see everything that is going on there. That is all I know about that. Why is this happening? Fig 1 As all this is happening, certain essences are starting to "gain weight" [See Fig 1] because the frequency shifting is "pulling everything up." Those energies that are regressive are starting to "freak out". According to the Andromedans, every single one of us on planet Earth and 21 other star systems in our galaxy apparently consist of a group of beings, individual consciousness', that apparently evolved some trillions of years ago to the 11th density. An experiment was conceived where beings would drop down into the concept of time and experiment with our thoughts creating physical matter. They say that apparently a large group of us dropped down into 3rd density and found a specific race already there with a very specific genetic coding involving 22 different extraterrestrial races. All life on Earth was brought here by traders (Earth lies along a galactic trade route), explorers, miners, joy-riders - all different people. Originally, the Earth was in a different orbit, closer to Mars, and nothing but ice.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/esp_andromedacom_1.htm#Transcript%201996
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Posted on 04-25-10 11:44
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There will be a time when people will say religion is so 20th century. In this 21st century people are becoming more educated and more able to make better decision about things and analyze things better than they ever did. All these stories about creation is farce. These stories are all created so that certain group of people will have power over others and to create segregation among people to give them a feeling of togetherness/teamwork and a subconscious hint at superiority as to one's own religion is better than others.
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Posted on 04-25-10 11:50
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IF God created humans (and all the other living beings ), it must have been a curious experiment (at first) that went bizarrely amiss, and now s/he can't do anything to control the mess, and decided to just let it run it's course. Personally, I don't think the "creation" was created -- it was a scientific evolution that ...errr... just happened. What happened, what happens, and what will happen (apart from how we choose to live) is beyond our control, so just accept (life) and live it. When we die -- when our brains stop functioning, our minds cannot think, and our bodies lay useless -- nothing will matter anyway. Making the most out of life is to just live it, moment by moment, and only cherish it while you still are able to think and feel. So, don't think too much!
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Posted on 04-25-10 12:50
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Liked ur post Poonte. Jneutron... WTF.......... was that?????
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Posted on 04-25-10 1:04
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totally agree with poonte
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Posted on 04-25-10 1:06
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I dunno if there is a divine plan or a divine being, but im def sure we weren't just a product of chance, a possiblilty of being created after smashing two atoms together. Theres no way in hell we were created out of some trivial coincidence. If thats true, then this entire life is a joke. Also, I think the only reason the human race is here is to procreate and spread their dna throughout the universe (someday!). It might even be just some sort of experiment by some sadistic extraterrestrial being. And yes I agree, jneutron WTF MAN :D a couple of links wud have done the job :P
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grgDai
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Posted on 04-25-10 2:50
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Dekchidriver when you say "Theres no way in hell we were created out of some trivial coincidence. If thats true, then this entire life is a joke." That is why religion got created. Because people need a reason for their existence, to find a greater meaning of life. Life is a very amazing process there is no doubt about that. Even plants are considered to be living things. The life that a living plant has is indeed an amazing process as well. The theory of evolution explains the evolving nature of plants and animals from single cell organisms to a highly intellectual human being. In the mind of a normal human being there is always a question about who started it or how did it all begin? In my opinion it's like the concept of time. Time is always there, noone has to create it. Plants recognize the importance of time. Depending on time of day or the placement of the sun, they can change their growth phases. Animals recognize the importance of day and night. Division of night and day was the first initial discovery or acceptance of time. Dekchidriver you are saying that if theory of evolution is true then this entire life is a joke. In a way, it is a joke for human beings only because they can perceive it as such. Shakespeare rightfully said life is a comedy or errors. Life is not a joke for animals and plants but we are capable of perceiving it as a joke because we are more advanced life forms with our own languages to describe and feel things. Did time need to be created? When you bring your two hands together it creates a clapping noise. It's a reasonable resulting phenomenon of clapping. The coincidence of the big bang that created the background in the universe resulting in single cellular life forms which evolved into the current human beings are also nothing but a phenomenon that happened to take place. Life is nothing but a chance - which we get - by chance. It took a lot of coincidences for you to be here and it was not determined by some higher power who wanted it to happen. Today personally you can decide if you want to have unsafe sex so that you may have children. It may take a couple tries to actually get your wife pregnant. Then down the line after couple of centuries your descendants may wonder if it was a lot of coincidents that created them. So the power of now is the biggest thing that can have variety of consequences. Right now is the time when you have power to make things happen or to experience coincidences due to your being in the place at the time. Coincidence is a function of time. Therefore, TIME is god (for me).
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8848m
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Posted on 04-25-10 3:33
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Good explanation Gurungdai
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Posted on 04-25-10 3:46
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We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Sahara. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively outnumbers the set of actual people. In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here. - Richard Dawkins
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jneutron
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Posted on 04-25-10 4:22
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bro, darwinism has been found false time after time. if evolution meant only gradual genetic change within a species, we’d have only one species today—a single highly evolved descendant of the first species. Yet we have many…
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Namaskaar
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Posted on 04-25-10 4:48
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jneutron bro, I am sorry to learn about your understanding of evolution or rather lack of it. Go to a proper university and study about evolutionary biology again. Then come and argue your point.
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Namaskaar
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Posted on 04-25-10 4:49
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Just to give you a hint: Individual variation is the basis of evolution by natural selection. Good Luck Bro.
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Posted on 04-25-10 5:06
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Posted on 04-25-10 5:11
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Gradualism by Darwin followed by Punctuated Equilibrium by S. J Gould would give a clear picture of evolution. Let me clear the misconception about evolution here, First and foremost, In a simple term evolution is the change in gene frequency over time - Evolution is without a goal that means it not striving towards something - Evolution may be multi-directional e.g. Birds- First bird was archeopteryx that had both reptilian and avian character and now compare it with Guam Rail- it cannot fly. -Evolution is not a change within individual's lifetime
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Posted on 04-25-10 5:26
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Raju161 first of all I was not talking about the origin of life but still I would like to add some points to your reply. Science have grown tremendously with time. We have made a lot of advancement in recent times in science. Science is always in humility that we don't know everything and we always but we don't put the God of Gaps like u guys do. We still not know how it started but once it started we have fairly good idea about how it developed. Science is working on it and surely we will find it one day. So your sarcasm should be saved for yourself raju161. And to make u clear my post was not about Darwinism in anyway. I posted a note that Richard Dawkins wanted to recite in his eulogy at his funeral. It is from his book Unweaving the Rainbow. I didn't posted it in full. I haven't posted last two lines. May be u believe in talking snake theory of creation, or Bishnu's earwax theory of creation, or Mohammad theory of creationism but nothing has been as clear as Evolution by natural selection in explaining the origin of species.
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Posted on 04-25-10 5:33
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namaskaar, read this article and come back:
http://www.henrymakow.com/forbidden_archeology.html
Will - Not only do archaeological finds disprove Darwinism, but there is no proof of macro-evolution (species to species mutation) whatsoever. Of course species adapt to their environments and their characteristics can change over time, but there is no evidence in the fossil record or anywhere else to prove that one species transforms into another. The complete title of Darwin's book is, "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life." Darwin was a renowned racist looking for a scientific excuse for slavery and genocide of "undesirable" and "inferior" races. Evolution has been used to justify every major genocide and wicked philosophy--i.e. Naziism, stalinism, communism--in history by killing off the weak. Evolution makes a hero out of death and completely negates all morality and humane compassion. When you tell people that they are evolved animals that are floating on a lawless and indifferent planet in outer space they begin to act as just that--lawless animals with no morality or accountability for themselves. DNA is proof of a designer. The number of chromosomes from everything from a tomato, to a dog, to a human vary so drastically; there is no evidence of an upward evolutionary progression. To quote another: if you saw a painting or a statue in the forest and there was no one to be seen for 100s of miles, would you assume that it happened all by itself or that it had a creator? DNA is so mind-bogglingly complex that it proves a creator. Don't you think people's self-esteem and moral conviction would be higher if they were taught that they were designed in the image of God rather than freaks of nature that evolved from a rock billions of years ago? This is how the illuminati want us to view ourselves. Dr. Kent Hovind, who was framed for tax evasion and is now in prison, has over 17 hours of video in which he disproves every "proof" or argument for evolution. He has successfully debated top scientists and offered a $250,000 reward for proof of evolution. His debates and articles can be found at www.drdino.com and www.freehovind.com. Evolution is the most effective means of destroying peoples faith in God and in the basis for absolute morality. As Hovind says "if there is no God, then how do you determine right from wrong?" And who determines it? Our satanic politicians who molest children? Evolution is one of the "strong delusions" now face. People "professing themselves wise have become fools.""Who turned the truth into a lie and worshiped the creature more than the creator?" Evolution is satanic at worst and foolish at best. It is used by guilt-ridden and immoral people to justify their sinful lifestyles and sexual perversions. Period. Evolution gives people a rational excuse to live like godless, materialistic and selfish animals.
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Here is a quick way to disprove evolution right from the beginning: If the first cells somehow emerged 'by accident' out of some primordial 'soup' of elements, how would they "know", at the DNA level, how to reproduce ? How might it be possible for those theoretical first cells to have fully functional reproductive DNA, if they were "born" by accident ? Why didn't they just die ?
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Posted on 04-25-10 5:34
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Namaskaar, First and foremost i don't believe in Bishnu and mohammad things in creation of life and i didn't mentioned about it therein . Second, I suggest you to read between the lines about what i wrote before leaping to the conclusion. If you didn't i can make sure you will Fail your 400 level class related to Ecology and Field Biology.
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I recommend to you 2 books : The Blind Watchmaker (you can even find a google video of it) Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution. Both by Richard Dawkins.
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