झापाली किन फटाहा हुन्छन र ? I still don't understand why they are soo called ?? Please can any one make me clear .

Look at this eqv:
5 Nepali (average) = 1 Jhapali,
5 Jhapali = 1 Syanjali,
3 Syanjali = 1 Nuwakote ...

Reality :: Nepali from all district are "sajjan", few of them are "fataha". 

I do not know why people dub these people this way, but people generally say that Jhapali and Syangjali are different.

jhapalis are khattam but biratnagar wasis are jhannai khattam.......

I let me add something here.

5 Nepali (average) = 1 Jhapali,
5 Jhapali = 1 Syanjali,
3 Syanjali = 1 Nuwakote ...
5 Nuwakote = 1 shaptariya ( they walk with close fist, scare of lapche)

5 shapariya = 1 khatriya

5 khatriya = 1 dead bhihari

"= 1 Dead Bhihari" ha ha...good one

I used to live with a Synjali in kathmandu. my friends used to warn me to be careful with him. Once I had gone to my home ,when I came back he changed the room  without informing me. What u feel when u come back to room  and there are somebody else? More than half of my things were lost . It was discusting.

Mr.Lute;

That's a sad story, यो एउटासम्योग मात्रै होला, उखान बददै गएको र उक्तिको रुपमा प्रायोग हुन थालयो , बदमासी को कुरामा कोही भन्दा कोही कम छैनन ।
एउटाले बिगारने हजारौले भोग्नु पर्ने भनेको एहि हो , त्यो मुर्खले के गर्‍यो सारा स्याङ्जाली को नाम बेचिदियो, now you beleive that the proverb was right.

Please don't take it as an offence to whatever "-li" s but it's true at least to some extent, and false too!!

Our knowledge, attitude, skills and behaviors are mainly governed by the society we live. I am not a sociologist but we don't have to be a sociologist to understand this fact. Mostly, a child develops her behavior learning form seniors. For example, speaking "bad words" is more common in Mongoloid families in Nepal compared to orthodox Bahuns. Obviously, that 'generally' determines what words that child uses when he grows up.

Just think of your "guffadi" friend, it is more likely that her/his family members too are guffadi, it's natural, it's how your friend knew how to be a guffadi. Look even in US, kallu's don't hesitate to commit a crime but gore's think many times.

Lamjunges (officially, I'm not from Lamjung) are storytellers, syangajali are comparatavely more literate/cleverer, jhapalis are even more literate and probably cleverer too; every Jumli knows about courts and similar messes. I have not met so many Dangalis and others. Specifically about Syanjali and Jhapalis: due to their education, they probably had a generally superior thinking power compared to ordinary people. It is not unusual to use your skill for your own benefit, a human behavior, and that's what they did. Their attitude to benefit only themselves was induced to other people in the society, and every child born now will attempt to learn their senior's attitude even now. Damn, they are selfish...personally I had some 3-4 interactions with Syanjalis..they all turned out to be snakes. I have one of my best friend, who is Syanjali and a couple of Jhapalis who are good. But I have seen bad Jhapalis too.

Bottomline: There is no clear cutoff, but it generally applies that these *li's are different than others.

यो गीत सुन्नु होस् तेस पछी थाहा हुन्छ झापाली भनेको को हो? तर म चाँही झापा को हैन है तर गहिरो सम्बन्ध चाँही छ है

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSNc0ZJU6pE

The truth is is JHAPALIS are smart, clever, talent, not fatahaaas. (few exceptions)

यो गीत सुन्नु होस्

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSNc0ZJU6pE

syanjali haru le  aru manche suteko bela ma  tesko finger print liyera sabai property afno banauthe  re pahila pahila .one of my friend who is syanjali told me this story.

I think they migrated form hilly area and had to compete with Rajbansi and Bangali, as the time passed they became more clever according to the needs which is far away from others need, somehow they could not act according to the present environment and society. Where ever they went could not leave their past and could not mold accordingly, therefore they started this proverb.

You know about women in Bharatpur (Chitwan, ride bike and their husband sits in the back) same way they are very upfront and very smart,  I like that.

 

I don't agree that  A= multiple of B

Let's say A= Nuwakote, My home district
But at least, I am not so cunning guy. Even 6 year old people can make me fool !

I wish I could be more clever according to time.

Phataha ta khoi thaha bhayan.... tara mero anubhav le bhannu parda Jhapali chalakh bhane sarai hunchan ho.... sojho manche le sath nagarda ramro...

फट्यैइँ र बठयाईँमा कतिले फरक छ थाहा भएन तर माथि साथीहरुले भनेजस्तो मुलत: झापालीहरु बाठा हुन्छन। यिनिहरुसँग सोझो मनुस्यले संगत नगर्दा नै ठीक हुन्छ। भन्छन नि अङ्रेजीमा relations are either {symbiotic, mutualistic, commensalitic  or parasitic. झापाली सँगको नाता चै प्राय: commensalitic or  parasitic नै हुन्छ। अब यो उनिहरु को फट्यैइँ या बठ्ह्याईँ हो आँफै पत्ता लगाउनुस्।

Prejudice is the child of ignorance.

I used to think Jhapali’s are clever too. While working in Damak I asked some of my friends and colleagues as to how they felt about the opinion of them being considered “clever.” They took it very positively and said that’s their strength. They enjoy the idea that rest of the district people in a way "fear” them. I as well enjoyed working with them and learned  good positive life lessons.

 

It sure makes sense for them to be clever and smart yet not cunning. It’s because they live by the border of India-Nepal, they have very mixed and diverse ethic cultures from Bahun, Chhetri, Newar, Rai, Limbu, Gurung, Rajbansi, Madeshi, Dhimal, migrant from Darjeeling etc and not to forget the Bhutanese refugee population. Darwin’s “survival-of-the fittest” is manifested in their livelihood.

 

I think Jhapa is a nice place for farming with 3 season rice farming.

 

Just to make sure I still think they are clever but not cunning. Also to add I say “We at times see the things the way we are rather than the things are”

jhapalee are clever because jhapa is located near india and even to arrange their bread and butter they have to compete with indians and that's how they became so cunning and selfish.