the cabinet meeting today decided to nationalise the king'S palaces across the country

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hahaha...more money now for the netas to put into their pockets! Whatz new?? Same old story with the same old netas under the farce of a New Nepal. Ain't no wool over my eyes as yet.

Govt panel seals King’s property



Kantipur Report


KATHMANDU, Aug 23 - The government committee formed to nationalize the King’s property sealed the registration, transfer and mortgage of all property owned by the King and the royal family on Thursday.
The committee led by Home Minister Krishna Prasad Sitaula issued written directives to all Land Revenue Offices to stop any transaction of property owned by the royal family.

The committee has also decided to nationalize the Narayanhiti Royal Palace, Lamjung Durbar, Gorkha Durbar and Hanumandhoka Durbar.

The meeting also decided to nationalize 1500 bighas of land owned by the royals.

On August 20, the cabinet had constituted a five-member committee to nationalize the property belonging to late King Birendra and the property inherited by King Gyanendra by virtue of being the monarch.

The committee was given a time frame of 15 days.

The committee also decided to seal all the bank accounts of the King, Queen and Crown Prince to stop the transfer of money from late King Birendra and late Queen Aishwarya, sources said.

Minister for Tourism and Civil Aviation Prithvi Subba Gurung, Minister for Land Reforms and Management Jagat Bahadur Bogati, Minister for Law, Justice and Parliamentary Affairs Narendra Bikram Nembang and Minister for Forest and Soil Conservation Minister Dev Gurung are the other members of the committee.



Posted on: 2007-08-23 05:29:02 (Server Time)
http://www.kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?&nid=120142

I wonder when did Dev Gurung took over forest and soil conversation minister anyway. I know Matrika Yadav's resignation was approved but didn;t know Mr Gurung took over the ministry. Mantri le kun kun bibhag samaleko pani keep up garna garo paryo yar

So Wonder what will happen to those frozen bank accounts ? GOTO OUR CORRPUT NETAS SWISS BANKS ACCOUNTS ? So what now ? These corrput cronies are going to reside in those palces now ? WHAT THE FUG ? They should turn them into Museums and national monuments & not have these fuggers get anything out of them.

This bring one very important aspect of WHAT IS NEPAL ?
I do not like Gyaney but his ancestors did unite NEPAL as we know today. BUt these fugging crony politicians have not done shit for the courtry except to fill their pockets. It was thesame for Gyaney, that mofo did nothing for the country. So he does not deserve to be living in those palaces.

The richest King of the poorest country hasn't lost much if you scratch the surface.

"The committee has also decided to nationalize the Narayanhiti Royal Palace, Lamjung Durbar, Gorkha Durbar and Hanumandhoka Durbar.

The meeting also decided to nationalize 1500 bighas of land owned by the royals. "

That's peanuts. Those palaces were not very liquid assets - who could he have sold them to anyways? The government would prolly have gotten it back from the buyer in the unlikely event the King was able to sell it off. This has more political than economic ramifications for the King, who according to many people, remains one of the richest people in the country.

Also, the Narayanhiti palace was built with taxpayers money and should never have been in the name of the King. I find that bit of information in the article to be odd, because I was under the impression that Narayanhiti was never under the Kings name even during the Panchayat era. If Narayanhiti was indeed under the name of the King, then this is a long over due correction and kudos to the government for it.

The article does not mention who will administer those properties, but I read elsewhere there was a trust to be formed to do so. Also, from the the article, the government merely says that Narayanhiti, the one with most significance on the list, has been nationalized but the government has not given an eviction notice to the residents.For all the hullabaloo, the King can continue to live at Narayanhiti and get the government to pay for it.

So I think this might just be a sop to mollify the republicans and anti-King forces. I think the government did not go far enough. Like with so many things in politics, in trying to please everyone and strike a compromise, the government might have pleased no one.

Converting the palaces into Museums is a good idea and the jewelry/antiques/cars/anything the royals used that are confiscated could be put at display...I'd pay to see it all. But the bigger question is: Who wouldl be in charge of collecting all the ticket revenue? Lets hope an entity not directly run by the netas would handle the finances and everything of value...Otherwise, whatever's left of the antiques would be smuggled outta Nepal, sitting on a museum abroad or in some collector's mansion. Damn, we're talking about tens of millions here (if not hunderds)!!

Samsara -

I wish they would go as far as confiscating those things you mentioned and putting it under a trust. I doubt this government, about which I have mixed feelings, has the courage to go that far. After the Madesi uprising, this government seems to have lost its spine to do anything big and important that might be controversial or upset the political applecart.

Hope all is well with you.

Since its DOUUUKWASHI now & Everything confisticated should be on display in a museum. That way they can generate some(very lil sum) revenue out of it. But with today's Maoist anarchy I doubt it would be safe there. I just hope it dun end up in the hands of looters like it did in Iraq.

Did someone say they are going to Nationalize Kings Seven durbars. Kinda ironic, One durbar each for the Seven Party, but wait what about Maoist ?? Nah they will take over the country and Have all the seven durbar. J hos Neta+ maoist le yo dashain chain dami manaune bhayo.

Good Job Netas The only thing you are doing is re-arranging National Property. Only One man used to Have national Porperty but Now we have 8 men raping a country.

jay nepal

I still do not understand why they are after the king. He gave up everything long time ago...c'mon netas, think of something that can develop the counrty and move forword...
The way things are going, it will take forever to get where Nepal was 15 years ago...we are just going south...

eg. Look at the flag carrier, 15-20 years ago, they had 4 planes (2 Boeing 727s and 2 Boeing 757s)..what do they have now...2 old 757s which are usually grounded or overworked.....parts are being swapped......this is just one example where we are now and where we were back then...

just something to think about......

Where does it say the deeds of these properties is being transferred to other individuals? It's one thing to disagree with the decision of the government but quite another to make up false stories to bolster what I see as a pretty ridiculous argument.

That one versus seven argument is also not valid in my argument. I remember Royalist talking about one Paras versus thousands of Paras as if to say that it is right for one individual to commit heinous crimes and run amuck while everyone else was expected to shut up and watch because it would be worse if more people did it. This property argument sounds even more ridiculous than that because it is based on false premises. The deeds of this are not going to any individual and the properties will be administered by a government that come November will be an elected one that has political legitimacy.

National property belongs to the country and it's people and should be managed by an independent trust appointed by an elected government (which we should have later this year or next) on the lines of national parks, museums etc are.

But perhaps some of us are incapable of looking at each issue on its own merits and approach it with our pre-conceived political notions about who we support.

बिरेन्द्र को श्री सम्पती ज्ञाने ले लिएको छ त्यो चाँही जफत गरी UNIVERISY वा असल कार्यको लागि प्रयोग गर्नु पर्छ।
हत्या पनि गर्ने, राजा पनि हुने अनी सम्पत्ति पनि हत्याउने , सबै कहाँ गर्न पाईNछ।

I only wish they were going after the King. This seems to be a smoke screen to appear tough on the Monarch. The economic impact of this, like I said earlier, is probably minimal on the King. If they really wanted to go after him, they would have nationalized his revenue generating assets which they are not touching.

Those properties won't go to Nepalease people. My guess is:

35% ---------------> Maobai
40% ---------------> SPA
25% or more------>Leakage

Kukurharu ko din pheri aayooo.

Exactly, thats what I've been getting at ever since time immemorial...The king is out (as good as dead) and the bigger threat to all Neps are the mothafuggin Maoists. They are the ones who need to be flogged/castrated/lynched/shot point blank as they're still extorting/calling bandhs/looting and the whole nine yards even though their leaders are supposedly in the cabinet. What friggin hypocrites!! BTW, Gyane (not the best but at least better than the current ghoosay chor netas anyday) ruled for a year and a half during the last 17 years of democracy and the chor netas still blame him for Nepal's current state? This is a fuggin riot. hahahahhaah Nepal is where it currently is because of the advent of democrazy where the netas hoodwinked everyone into believing it would be best for all. hahahha Turned out to be best only for them. The poor got poorer while the rich remained where they were...Only the politicians and those with political ties made boatloads of money. Most destructive of all, those lawless goons called maobadi cames during this time too. Blame the netas for Nepal being a failed state and not the King as Gyane (in my viepoint) hasn't had a chance for destroying the nation at all as the damn netas have.

And yeah, as per kathmandubasi, I would never travel or let my loved ones travel on RNAC (don't know what it is called these days though). The damn plane might just fall apart mid-air.

Finally, Haddock, nice to see you here. Hope things are good on your end.

Exactly Kathmandubasi, thats what I've been getting at ever since time immemorial...The king is out (as good as dead) and the bigger threat to all Neps are the mothafuggin Maoists. They are the ones who need to be flogged/castrated/lynched/shot point blank as they're still extorting/calling bandhs/looting and the whole nine yards even though their leaders are supposedly in the cabinet. What friggin hypocrites!! BTW, Gyane (not the best but at least better than the current ghoosay chor netas anyday) ruled for a year and a half during the last 17 years of democracy and the chor netas still blame him for Nepal's current state? This is a fuggin riot. hahahahhaah Nepal is where it currently is because of the advent of democrazy where the netas hoodwinked everyone into believing it would be best for all. hahahha Turned out to be best only for them. The poor got poorer while the rich remained where they were...Only the politicians and those with political ties made boatloads of money. Most destructive of all, those lawless goons called maobadi cames during this time too. Blame the netas for Nepal being a failed state and not the King as Gyane (in my viepoint) hasn't had a chance for destroying the nation at all as the damn netas have.

And yeah, as per kathmandubasi, I would never travel or let my loved ones travel on RNAC (don't know what it is called these days though). The damn plane might just fall apart mid-air.

Finally, Haddock, nice to see you here. Hope things are good on your end.

It's one thing to guess. Let the facts play out.

Samsara -

Good to see you too. I disagree on a couple of things. But before that what I do agree on is the Maoist are becoming as big a threat, if not bigger, to a functioning democracy in Nepal as Monarchy once was. Will they mend their ways? I dont know. The YCL has now submitted a memorandum to the PM instead of trying to shoot him - I can only hope that they will continue on that path as they transition from an armed militia to an activist wing of a party. That's better than extorting people and killing them - especially if the Maoists want to do well in the elections.

"BTW, Gyane (not the best but at least better than the current ghoosay chor netas anyday) ruled for a year and a half during the last 17 years of democracy and the chor netas still blame him for Nepal's current state? This is a fuggin riot. hahahahhaah Nepal is where it currently is because of the advent of democrazy where the netas hoodwinked everyone into believing it would be best for all. hahahha?"

Here I disagree somewhat. The leaders need to take their share of the blame for mis governance during the last 15 years - I dont dispute that. Nepal's current state, however is not the result of this mis governance alone. We have a history of oppression and power hunger on the part of Nepal's King, his relatives and cohorts which unleashed a process of disparity and alienation. The years of democracy did not completely correct that imbalance. What we are seeing today is power moving out from Kathmandu to the districts and villages. Unless this process reaches some sort of a equilibrium, as wobbly as that equilibrium might be, we will continue to see instability regardless of who rules the country - the Congress, King, UML, Maoists or even the Army.

Too bad we might have to sacrifice the institution of Monarchy to reach this equilibrium. At this rate, this realignment of power, which I see as inevitable, might even consume not just the UML and Congress (in that order) but even the Maoists.

What the parties represent is the aspirations of people in Nepal, especially outside of Kathmandu, to have more power in their hands. It is foremost the Monarchy's failure - not to mention it's contempt for the parties, which sounds pretty similar to yours, that it could not share and balance power correctly in the country. I say this because they are the oldest institution in the country. Instead of wisdom coming with age, the opposite seems to have happened to the institution. Had we had a far sighted, progressive and benelovent Monarchy the Congress, UML and Maoist would probably have been nowhere in sight.

Instead our predominantly Kathmandu based elites, which included the King, were so disconnected with the rest of the country that it became inevitable they would fall. I think the same has happened with the parties when they came to power and had it not been for Gyanendra taking over, the Congress and UML would have been in the wilderness. He gave them new life and legitimacy by arrogantly making some of the same assumptions about these parties like the ones you made.

Anyways, this is supposed to be about the nationalization of some of the Kings property and not a discussion on Monarchy. Like any other political topic on Sajha, it seems to be turning out to be a wide discussion of politics in Nepal which has been done elsewhere and perhaps exhausted as well.

Whats the technicality of ‘NATIONALIZED’ and/ or what would be the closest implication? Where does RAJA stand in the constitution? If we were talking about the land with the law, your response would be very obliging!

Ok Haddock, you said "What the parties represent is the aspirations of people in Nepal, especially outside of Kathmandu, to have more power in their hands. It is foremost the Monarchy's failure - not to mention it's contempt for the parties, which sounds pretty similar to yours, that it could not share and balance power correctly in the country. Had we had a far sighted, progressive and benelovent Monarchy the Congress, UML and Maoist would probably have been nowhere in sight. "

Your statement makes me think that you're still living in an imaginery perfect world where everyone follows the law, people open doors for the next passer-by or even pick up and hand you the change that fell outta your pocket. This is the most naive statement I've ever heard so far. You're assuming the realms of Western democracy here which is a far cry from what we have in Nepal. Here polls are manipulated through terror and local goons (brought into the village where the polls are being held in busloads) who can sway the voting public with their presence around the poll booths. Yes, the damn cops are there but they've either been paid off before-hand or are too friggin scared coz their jaagir is at risk. How do I know this? I have seen BS like this take place firsthand as my very cousin (no names here) was among the hired political pawns for a certain party where every election period (back in the days), he took busloads of local hoodlums to the areas outside Ktm...I'm stating facts of Nepali elections here. Anyone from the villages here in sajha would coorborate fo sure. I'd suggest you and most of our sajha democrazy enthusiasts to find out what happens in the village polls this election period (if you have anyone who lives there). The parties as you said do not "represent the aspirations of the people" but rather, forces its aspirations as a yoke on the people.

And power transfer to the public? When has this ever taken place? This, my friend will never ever happen as long as the same netas continue with their tight grasp over Nepali politics. And power moving out of Ktm you say? The exact opposite happened during the 17 years of democracy. I still remember back during the late 80s (before democracy)when the govt begain a process of decentralization. Pokhara, Biratnagar and the whole Nepalgunj area were being developed as other industrial towns (industires outside Ktm sprung up in Hetauda, Lumbini, etc.). After democroacy came about, where else did this branch out? Instead all these village netas moved into Ktm and brought their cronies and other villagers there too (and these cronies brought others too). Note that in Nepal, a minister wins the election from his district but ironically lives his term in Ktm instead (my neighbor was the minister of Labor and he hailed from a certain village where he visited only during election time). How on earth is this minister supposed to know what ails his village? If the kids are going to school? If they have enough security? If there's enough to eat there? It ain't like the US where the governor of a particular state resides in his own state. Imagine if they lived 24/7 in DC instead? A public outrage.

Please note that I'm blaming the netas for all the destruction we've faced so far. The royals did impediment years of development but they in my view have done more than these chor netas have for the past 17 years of negative development: both monetary and social (If we factor in the fall in the currency exchange rate/the polulation discplaced by the maoist violence/the total dead or missing/subsistence farmers losing the lil they have to feed the rebel militia/etc). Now where on earth are these farmers and villagers on the brink of starvation and nothing to their name gonna go to? The city where though overcrowded polluted and a hotbed of crime, there is a better chance for survival. This has made towns that were once on the path to industrialization and filled with job opportunities (the lil industrialisation today we have started back in the 1970/80s) become places that are today diseconomies of scale. The whole rebel movement brought about by this 17 year fiasco has crippled life outside Ktm as the netas never thought of giving importance outside Ktm (and not the King) during their entire 17 years of governance.

I still claim that democracy under the netas we had/still have was the biggest mistake ever. We need people who will lead us rather than those looking to loot us. I and we all know that for the past 17 years the public are the ones who suffered most. And you still say we have aspirations in the parties?? Never have, never will. Give me an army rule anyday rather than these friggin netas or worse, the fuggin commies!!