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Paagal
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Posted on 05-19-08 1:57
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Today is Buddha Jayanti. Buddha's teachings are so important in today's world. He particularly pointed out the reason why human beings are in misery - to have more and more. But who listens? To me, all the Buddists are hypocritic. They eat a lot of meat and talk about Karuna. They pride themselves, saying I'm a Buddhist. They are so full of ego and they get angry when I say they are Nakkali Buddhist. These nakkali Buddhist have made Buddha a Buddu.
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Paagal
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Posted on 05-19-08 2:01
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What's the point of celebrating Buddha Jayanti - may be to say to him, you are a Buddu, I hate to say.
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sirus_me
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Posted on 05-19-08 2:45
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Paagal
Your name describes you so no wonder nobody has replied yet. Let me tell ya sth biatch. You don't have to eat meat or eat grass in order to follow religion. You just follow the good principles and discard the ones that is not necessary. Saying Buddhists a hypocritic is saying yo's uncle son of biatch. What's up with you? If you follow Hindu, that's fine but you don't have to call other religion hypocritic, m&&therf&&ker. As a matter of fact, I am not a religious person nor a buddhist but I follow both of 'em because I follow good principles from both religion and discard the ones that are not needed. So, Go get a job and get a life. If not, attempt suicide, you ain't worth a penny to this world.
YOU GOT THAT.
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whois
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Posted on 05-19-08 3:19
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Paagal , I'm Buddhist and I'm not offended by single words that you expressed Everyone has rights to say anything.. If you feel that way and wants to let know everyone about it.. express your more of your feeling ..... ... Write more bad about it... if it makes you feel good........ I've nothing to say bad about you or any religion... "BUT I BEG YOU TO WRITE MORE HETRATE IF ITS MAKING YOU FEEL GOOD" These are some quotes for you... One of his students asked Buddha, "Are you
the messiah?"
"No", answered Buddha.
"Then are you a healer?"
"No", Buddha replied.
"Then are you a teacher?" the student persisted.
"No, I am not a teacher."
"Then what are you?" asked the student, exasperated.
"I am awake", Buddha replied. -Buddha All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.
sirus_me this one for you " Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule.
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Samsara
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Posted on 05-19-08 3:44
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Paagal, you mothafugcking bigot! Tolerance for others' religious sentiments is a necessity for all "normal" humans, ya lil gnome-faced she-male!! Go fornicate with your mom instead of coming in here and proving yourself a sublime ignoramus!!
Ethocentrism is fine until you end up stabbing someone else's sentiments. Then all hell will break loose. Why don't mothafugkas like you come forth and voice your opinions in the face of a Buddhist rather than hide behind a viel and scream such lunacy? What a fugcking psycho!!
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mohanB
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Posted on 05-19-08 4:00
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I respect Gautam Buddha as a person who revived the need for meditation and building compassion for all forms of lives in this world. I have no doubt that he was an enlightened soul who was also capable of uplifting the spirits of others around him as well.
But I have wondered since long time back that why he never advocated vegeterianism as a way of life. I don't understand how we can be compassionate when we don't understand (or pretend to not understand) how the animals feel while going under the blade just for the sake of our tongues. If we just ignore this topic while we are at the dining table next time, how can we become compassionate to other lives?
This is just my thought, just came out spontaneously when I saw this thread.
Sorry if I've offended anyone.
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Mr. Hyde
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Posted on 05-19-08 4:26
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Not just animals but plants have life too. So if you think you are doing a great justice to non-violence by being vegetarian then you are dead wrong. There is a concept of something called food-chain that has kept the circle of life going since the Paleozoic Era. In the current era, plants and animals (including human beings) have to depend upon one another for food. That's how the check and balance for sustainability of any form of life is maintained. Whether vegetarian or non-vegetarian, we are destroying the life of a plant or animal unless we start feeding upon lifeless mud or stones!One can still be kind or responsible to both sources of food by minimizing the plight of both animals and plants. For instance, as a human being one can refrain from taking away the life of a plant or animal if he/she never had an intention of turning into some form of food or utility in the first place.
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Rewire
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Posted on 05-19-08 4:35
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Let's leave religion aside. Ask anybody in any part of the world beside Nepal, India Do you prefer to eat cow or drink their pee? You'll get the answer. At least we do not drink their pee nor pray to a statue of human genital(shiva linga). Want me to pour more "jaal" on the flaws of Hinduism? Nobody is perfect. Get over it. and I'm sorry to if I offended anybody.
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geico
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Posted on 05-19-08 5:01
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All I have to say is:
Self-Examination
Not others’ opposition Nor what they did or failed to do, But in oneself should be sought Things done, things left undone.
Dhammapada 4(6): 50
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mohanB
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Posted on 05-20-08 9:45
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I don't understand why meat eaters always defend themselves by saying that plants also have life and blah blah when in their heart they know that they are doing something wrong. At least I'm proud that I don't want to be a hypocrite and its my gut feeling that eating meat is wrong. At least plants don't cry, look horrified and shocked unlike animals getting killed. You'll know what I'm saying if you visit a slaughterhouse some day and then feel the pain vibrating inside you. Even after that if it doesn't effect us then theres definately something wrong with us.
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Posted on 05-20-08 10:57
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RELIGION IS BIGGEST BULL_SH*T.....
When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!
But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!
But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is fu**ed up.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.
No woman could or would ever fu*k things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit. Doesn't give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.
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premstha
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Posted on 05-20-08 11:07
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I think Buddhism is more of a philosophy or 'way of life'.
"Four Noble Truths," which are the foundation of all Buddhist belief:
1.) All human life is suffering (dhukka ). 2.) All suffering is caused by human desire, particularly the desire that impermanent things be permanent. 3.) Human suffering can be ended by ending human desire.
4.) Desire can be ended by following the "Eightfold Noble Path": right understanding, right thought, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, and right concentration.
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"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis,when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it." ******Buddha*******
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VincentBodega
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Posted on 05-20-08 11:16
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mohanB, Food is one of the basic rights to survival, which is an essence to life. If you celebrate life, you celebrate food in whatever form or matter. You bring out slaughterhouses, thats a different business. I dont encourage cruelty, but at the same time I do not condone eating flesh. If you are going to justify killing of plants for the lack of the screams and cries that animals often display, will it be alright, by your standards, to butcher animals when are sleep such that they do not "feel" any pain or will not have any time to react. bored, The entirety of your post does not prove to me the non-existence of God. May be we need to separate God from religion. May be we need to ask ourselves where we stand in this triangle of God, religion and our own identity. My bet is that further we stand from religion and closer we stand to God, better we will appreciate the relationship between the God and ourselves. That relationship, my friend, is the religion we need ...a customized one.
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chyantu
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Posted on 05-20-08 5:59
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guys,
i can never imagine ppl fighting verbally in the name of Buddha,
thats a disgrace to his philosophies and as being Nepalis, we must be well versed with them,
and to Paagal, hope it wont do any good to u, but , mind it,
"phool ko aakha ma phoolai sansar"
kada ko aakha ma kaadai sansar"
may peace prevail in our country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted on 05-20-08 8:26
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mohanB
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Posted on 05-21-08 8:52
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Due to these type of things (see below news from kantipuronline) I'm sometimes even ashamed of my culture and being a Nepali. Giving Bali on Buddha Jayanti ?? what the heck??? shame on us.
Osho Rajneesh once said that Nepal is poor because we couldn't understand Gautam Buddha, sounds very true to me.
BTW, thanks rameshdai for posting that video.
पूणिर्मामा १० हजार बलि
भरत जर्घर्ाार
सिरहा, जेठ ७ - ढोढनास्थित राजदेवी पञ्चावती मन्दिरमा पूणिर्माको दिन मंगलबार झन्डै दस हजार पशुपन्छी बलि दिइएको छ ।
अहिंसाको सन्देश बोकेको पूणिर्मा -बुद्ध जयन्ती) भए पनि वर्षा एक दिनमात्र बलि लिने उक्त मन्दिरमा भाकल पूरा भएपछि पशुपन्छी बलि दिएको भक्तजनले बताए ।
मन्दिरका पुजारी डम्बरबहादुर भट्ट भन्छन्- 'राजदेवी मातालाई चण्डी 'पूणिर्मा' का दिनमात्र 'बलि' दिइने पौराणिक चलन हो ।'
गत वर्षलहानस्थित सिर्द्धार्थ एकेडेमी बोर्डिङ सञ्चालन गरेका जयनारायण दासले ३० जना मात्र बालबालिका भर्ना भएपछि उनले राजदेवी मातालाई विद्यार्थी भर्नादर वृद्धिका लागि बोका भाकल गरेका
थिए । 'भाकलअनुसार १ सय ५० विद्यार्थी भर्ना भएपछि पाठी बलि दिए“,' दासले भने- 'बुद्ध पूणिर्माको दिन बलि दिन नहुने हो तर भाकल पूरा भएकाले दिएका हौं ।'
दासजस्तै रीतु देवीको पनि यस वर्षभाकल पूरा भएको छ । उनका अनुसार शरीर कमजोर भएकाले भारतको दरभंगासम्म उपचार गराउ“दा ३० हजार खर्च भयो तर रोग निको
भएन । 'गत वर्षरोगव्याधि निको गराइदिन पाठी चढाउने पुकारा गरंे, नभन्दै निको भयो पाठी चठाएको छु,' उनले भनिन्- '३० हजार खर्च गर्दा पनि निको नभएको रोग १ हजार ३ सय २५ रुपैया“मा किनेको पाठी चढाउ“दा सञ्चो भयो ।'
जयनारायण र रीतु देवीमात्र होइन सन्तान प्राप्ति, रोग विनाश, कार्य सफलताका लागि सिरहा, सप्तरी, उदयपुर, धनुषालगायत मुलुकका विभिन्न भाग र भारतको विहार प्रान्तमा आएका भक्तजनले राजदेवी मन्दिरमा बोका, पाठी, हा“स, परेवा र कुखुरा बलि चढाए । पुरुषले भाकल गर्दा बोका र महिलाले मन्दिरमा पाठी बलि दिन्छन् । सहायक पुजारी विन्दीलाल चौधरी भन्छन्- 'दस पुस्ताअघि त्यस क्षेत्रको जंगलमा जनावरले दुःख दिन थालेपछि धामीलाई देवीले सपनामा मन्दिर स्थापना गरी पूणिर्माको दिन बलि दिन भनेअनुसार यहा“ बलि दिने परम्परा रहेको हो ।'
लहान बजारदेखि नौ किलोमिटर उत्तरमा ३ बिघा क्षेत्रफलमा जंगल राजदेवी मन्दिर अवस्थित छ । स्थानीय बासिन्दाका अनुसार उक्त क्षेत्रमा जंगल परापर्ूवकालदेखि नै थियो । पूजा व्यवस्थापन समितिका सचिव आविरलाल चौधरीका अनुसार यस वर्षचार हजारको संख्यामा बोका, पाठी र ५ हजार संख्यामा परेवा, हा“स र कुखुरा बलि दिइएको छ । बलि दिइएको पशुपन्छीको टाउको समितिले राख्ने गरेको छ ।
http://www.kantipuronline.com/kolnepalinews.php?&nid=147697
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Posted on 05-21-08 9:06
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offended no man...laugh yes!!
Nan-in, a Japanese master during the Meiji era (1868-1912), received a university professor who came to inquire about Zen. Nan-in served tea. He poured his visitor's cup full, and then kept on pouring. The professor watched the overflow until he no longer could restrain himself. "It is overfull. No more will go in!" "Like
this cup," Nan-in said, "you are full of your own opinions and
speculations. How can I show you Zen unless you first empty your cup?"
http://www.izenmaster.blogspot.com/
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whois
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Posted on 05-21-08 11:08
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I agree mohanB.... They should not have done on that day...!!!! It's a real shame.. Can't stop or educate!!!!
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syanjali
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Posted on 05-21-08 11:28
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Samsara , you mothafugcking bigot! Tolerance for others' personal is a necessity for all "normal" humans, ya lil gnome-faced she-male!! Go fornicate with your mom instead of coming in here and proving yourself a sublime ignoramus!!
Why don't mothafugkas like you come forth and voice your opinions in the face on someones personal statements. If do not agree shut you bitching mouth.
Who the hell you think YOu mothafugcking bigot.
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Mr. Hyde
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Posted on 05-26-08 9:21
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All the dudes and bitches that I have met via Sajha are invited to my crib to turn this Memorial Day into a MOMO REAL DAY provided that you eat meat.
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Samsara
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Posted on 05-26-08 10:07
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Hyde, damn those momos look ravishing! Like Akshay Kumar's line in a certain long-forgotten movie where he says to the heroine, "You look Raavishsing"!! LOLs
And yeah, Syangjali, you post the same words I've written, you fugcking beetle-nosed malkin! Get your own damn words otherwise I'd shove the momos posted above into your faggot azzz, mothafugcking FOBBY paakhay!!
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