I saw a thread somewhere where one Paramendra is encouraging people to donate $100 for some kind of movement involving terrorists. Perhaps all of part of that money will be funneled towards buying more bullets and guns for the terrosists so that more and more villagers can be intimidated and killed. It will also help them to loot even more food from innocent villagers by threat.

I think the person is Paramendra Bhagat as far as I have understood. Correct me if I am wrong here. Well done Mr. Bhagat. All peace loving Nepalese will remember this for a long time to come.

Again, we are talking about someone encouraging financial support towards terrorists in Nepal.

The case of palestines and jews is basically a religious one, or rather anun religious chaos. Dont try to draw a parallel here.

* a nonreligious chaos

Bhoonte,

You have a right to your opinions but, I doubt vitriol is the best means to make your point. The $100 the Paramdendra is asking for is to help defray the costs of the movement for the restoration of democracy in Nepal--so when you say that the money is going to Terrorists, you are obviosuly stating that the parties are terrorists.

Here's the problem with that equation: Democracy and Terrorism are very different ideals...like I said, Vitriol may be an easy thing to resort to but take time to make a proper distinction.

Everyone knows who is using taxpayer's money to buy weapons, diverting resources from education and health to buy guns or helicopters! Paramendra Bhagat makes an effort to raise money so that peace can be established, precisely so that the at-will use of force and misuse or resources stops and our Bhoonte is frustrated.

It will never be in the interest of the top army officials, King and his cronies to solve the Maoist problem. That's why they hate the democrats so much. They hate the democrats because they are worried the democrats might fix the problem. And they have been losing sleep ever since the Maoists and the parties formed an alliance.

All I have to say is this: do what you think is right. Only time will tell what's right and what's wrong.

If you feel so strongly about what you say, why don't YOU make an effort to raise money for the RNA so that the money currently being diverted away from development expenditure can be brought back to where it should be spent?

Can you do that? No. That's why you bitch here, posting on every thread, minutes after minutes, labeling everyone who opposes you as Maoist. That's the best you can do.

If wanting peace and freedom in Nepal means being a Maoist, I will rather be called so than kiss somebody's ass or be used as the state's propaganda machine. I am sure Paramendra will prefer to be called a Maoist, too, if he had to choose between wanting freedom (and beling labelled a Maoist, or terrorist, as your creative dictionary allows) and being a bhakta of the king!

It's one thing to oppose the political parties. Sure enough, they proved incompetent in the past. But it's another to blindly support the king and oppose everything that democrats are doing, inside and outside the country.

So, what are you M.P.? Paramendra's 50% partner in this venture??

Either of you are no different than the King, Parties, Maoists...they are all in for the $$$ in this game. Everyone of u have their own way of extorting and justifying it.

My friend Puru Subedi emailed me the URL to this thread saying there was a thread at Sajha about me.

I came and looked. He was mistaken. This seems to be a thread about Prabhakaran and Arafat.

So adios.

On the other hand, if a discussion flares up about this,
http://www.geocities.com/paramendra/nepal1000.html

I will be happy to answer questions and clear up misunderstandings. Holler.

II_III......,

If you take time to read the details on Paramendra's web, you'll see that, while this might have been his idea, people supporting him do have some credibility. Not sure if you know them. But I do know some of them and I would trust them with my $100, if I had it (I am Mahadev myself at the moment, so I will have to wait before I can make a donation, whatever modest amount it will be).

I am not Paramendra's 50% partner in this business. No thank you. I have a decent, 8:30-5:30 job, where I get to do almost exactly what I wanted to do before I graduated. So, if there I am to ever get involved in Paramendra's what you call "business", the most that I do is send a check with "for democracy in nepal" written on on the memo, next to the signature.

If you ask me, I have rejected his ACTUAL business in the past, in many cases even openly discouraging others to participate in his business, but since this is NOT a business and it's for a good cause -- at least from my perspective -- I am providing a moral support. That's all. You are free to interpret everything the way you want.

Quixtar - Pyramid schme.

I have seen the very money minded people in it.

माओबादीलाई नै कसैले चन्दा दिन्छ भने मेरो केही गुनासो छैन किनभने माओबादीका कतिपय मुद्धाहरु सँग म सहमत छु ।माओबादीले पनि अन्तत: निम्नवर्गीय नेपालीकै हित गर्न लडेका हुन्।

तर यो प्रसँगमा उल्लेखित स्पष्ट साम्प्रदायिक तत्व हरुलाई पोषण गर्ने हरु प्रति भने मेरि धिक्कार छ है ।

नेपाललाई भारतले सिक्किम बनाउला अथवा नेपाल प्रदेश बनाउला भन्ने डर हैन, सिक्किम त बरु ठीकै छ, त्यो
भन्दा ठूलो डर त नेपाललाई भारतले बिहार बनाउछ कि भन्ने हो । र केही दिन अघि देख्न-सुन्न पाईएको थियो
(उहाँको लालु-रावडीदेबी सँग बिषेश सम्बन्ध पनि छ रे, उहाँले नै भन्नु हुन्थ्यो त्यही भिडियोमै), नेपालमा
मधेसी-मूलका मानिसहरुको सँख्या पुरै जनसँख्याको ५० प्रतिशत भन्दा बढी छ रे, सुनेको कुरा हो बिहारको
जनसँख्या पनि त्यस्तै १४-१५ करोड छ रे ।

याद गरौँ साथीहरु, कतै तपाईँको १०० डलर बिहारी हरुलाई नेपालमा "ग्रीनकार्ड" दिने कामको लागि खर्च त हुँदैन ?

Keep rolling...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paramendra

check this link

Thank u highfly for your post.

I believe Bhoonte's defination of "terrorist" is more consistant with that of the Americans. Unfortunately "terrorist" as defined by the Americans is accepted only by the Americans themselves and some of their closest allies not the entire world.

Borrowing the defination of "terrorists" from the Americans, some of the dictators around the world have used it in a higly skillfull manner to defend themselves from their political opponents in their homelands. Mussaraff used it in Pakistan so did Gynendra in Nepal.

Many repressive governments around the world have used it since post-9/11 to justify their repressive acts.

Are you saying that maobadis are not terrorists?
To keep the matter simple I have pasted the definition of Terrorist from dictionary.com below

terrorist

adj : characteristic of someone who employs terrorism (especially as a political weapon); "terrorist activity"; "terrorist state" n : a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities.
(communism is their religion, their belief)
-Shiv

SHIV

How can Communism be a religion (or even co-exist side by side) ?

What I know from history of Communists through out the world is thatCommunists hated religion and made attemps in every possible ways to exterminate religion wherever Communism took hold. Former Soviet Union was an example from the past.

Communists tried relentlessly to get rid of Pope John Paul and he became a voice against Communism all his life when Soviets defeated Germans (at the end of World War 2) and brought Communism to the EAST BLOCK countries like Poland, Hungary etc.

Communist in China tried to in every possible ways to get rid of any influence of religion
and the crack down on this religious group called Falang Gong is a fresh example.

Some Maoists in Nepal tried to get rid of Pandits from villages.

So in essence, if I were to consider "your defination" above, the given defination itself will work against your characterization of "terrorist" because the Maoists in Nepal never used religion as a cover to achieve their goals.

Come up with more coherent defination ..PAL.

I 'll rather address the question of if they have used violence or not because the term "terrorist" seems rather tricky to me.

We all know that the Maoist have used violence to persue their political goals. We also have to keep into account that Maoist also has a military organization aside from a political organization.

Like any other military around the world, it will try to impose the goals set by its political masters by use of force (or violence) if needed. To impose the will (or the goals) set by its political masters is the ultimate goal of any military around the world wether it be US Military or Indian Military or Chinese Military or Nepali Military or Nepali Maoist Military.

There is no question about if the Maoists as a military organization ever used force or violence to impose their will or achieve goals.

It isnt hard to imazine that evey military organization in every other country will have a history of use violence. RNA is not an exception nor is Maoist military.

khaobaadi, so you mean to say getting ride of pundits, pujaris, pakhes, bhotes, is OK for the sake ideals? Communism is an idea that came out of someone or a group of people because of radical thinking.

When did we started justifying killing of human body for the sake of human idea? ideas comes out of human not the other way....PAL

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dude, I'm not here to advocate Communism. I'm mentioning what the conflict between the Communism and religion in various countries throughout the last 100 years.

dude. it isnt a rocket science and it wont take a lot to see that every human killed other human for the sake of an idea. One's idea came in conflict with the idea of other's and ........it's as basic as "not agreeing to" someone else's idea of vandalizing your home or bringing in Nazism one more time ...ok

khaobadi,
Believing in religion makes one religious, non-belief makes one atheist. However belief or non-belief it is the idea that both vouch for one for the existence of supernatural power other absence of it, both are based on belief. Communists believe in the red book of mao just like a religious person believes in the holy book the person belongs to. Communists have their own belief just like the religious groups. Again I will copy the definition of religion and belief to clarify the matter.

Here is the definition of Religion
"A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion." (communists have their own belief just like the relegious groups)

And here is the definition of Belief
"The mental act, condition, or habit of placing trust or confidence in another"

(Both these definitions are taken from dictionary.com)
-Shiv

Will that $100 be used in translation services for those Nepalese who cannot understand these Indians chanting slogans against Nepal? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-310143414616383538